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Oct 2019
1:50pm, 4 Oct 2019
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rf_fozzy
Here's the confirmation. twitter.com
Oct 2019
1:52pm, 4 Oct 2019
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HappyG(rrr)
Agree run free - this is the problem, if you are modern politician, prepared to lie then you can win, because only the sound bite is what people hear, and for some reason journalists are either not challenging the lies or the ones that are don't make it to the same sound bite success as the big media savvy political leaders. We're doomed.

I would say there are some (not me) in here who understand the complexities in very great detail. But I agree that everyone levers off someone else's knowledge and hardly anyone will research facts back to first principles. I know I'm guilty of that.

Fozzy, phew! Now, we just need the Labour apologists not to cave in, and the EU not to have a last minute wobbly, then at least we're still in until Jan 2020! :-) G
Oct 2019
1:53pm, 4 Oct 2019
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TomahawkMike
But this is from Steve baker the Chair of ERG reacting to that news:

A source confirms all this means is that Government will obey the law.

It does not mean we will extend.

It does not mean we will stay in the EU beyond Oct 31.
Oct 2019
1:53pm, 4 Oct 2019
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TomahawkMike
Clearly is all just a game to some people
Oct 2019
1:58pm, 4 Oct 2019
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DeeGee
Remind me what the Kinnock Amendment said.

Was it that before forcing the PM to send the letter requesting the extension we have to flog May's WA horse one more time, and that if it doesn't go through, at that point the letter gets sent?
Oct 2019
2:00pm, 4 Oct 2019
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HappyG(rrr)
We should be OK on that - ERGers won't have it, DUP won't have it. Mind you, how many crackers Labour Leavers would it take to pass it? Aaargh!
Oct 2019
2:04pm, 4 Oct 2019
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Fellrunning
I'd remind folks that Steve Baker thinks we left on March 29th.

He's not called Barking Baker for nothing...
Oct 2019
2:04pm, 4 Oct 2019
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TomahawkMike
Haha. They are mostly all barking..
jda
Oct 2019
2:06pm, 4 Oct 2019
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jda
I absolutely include myself in the set of people with limited knowledge. What I do understand is mainly gleaned from a good sense of working out who and what to believe, which itself is honed from decades of working in a highly politicised field (climate change) where motivated reasoning, lies, and exaggeration are commonplace. Plus through being semi-retired I have the time and inclination to follow it all in slightly obsessive detail. But it is absurd that we should have to. Why should a <random person in random job> have to know about, and make reasonable judgements concerning, the importance of international trade agreements and our membership of EURATOM, to take two random examples?

Even Bonson's latest fantasy of being on the verge of cheap fusion power (which was of course a blatant lie) is based on an EU-dominated project...
Oct 2019
2:11pm, 4 Oct 2019
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run free
Following on from JDA's "cheap power" am hoping to see more of Bristol's diamond batteries. Think a good amount of radioactive waste has been dumped in the seas and landfills. bristol.ac.uk Space travel stuff

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