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Feb 2024
9:50pm, 1 Feb 2024
12,551 posts
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Joopsy
Great documentary series on C4.
Despite this, despite Hillsborough, there are still many people out there who hail Thatcher as some kind of hero.
She was a despicable, deceitful moron who enabled and encouraged police brutality, misreporting and wrongful imprisonment.
I was still in school in 84 but in 88 i heard first hand experiences of guys who were at Orgreave and many other picket lines.
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Feb 2024
9:59pm, 1 Feb 2024
64,145 posts
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Derby Tup
I was 20 and living in Derbyshire then. Thatcher is no hero of mine
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Feb 2024
10:15pm, 1 Feb 2024
66,457 posts
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LindsD
Me neither
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Feb 2024
9:11am, 2 Feb 2024
22,767 posts
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DeeGee
She was a despicable, deceitful moron
I wouldn't describe her as a moron.
There are lots of words I would use to describe her, but moron isn't one.
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Feb 2024
9:25am, 2 Feb 2024
53,673 posts
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McGoohan
In 1984 I was 21-22 and my dad was union secretary of Stillingfleet pit. I'd just left Uni and was unemployed and living at home, so I saw a lot of this close up.
I haven't watched the documentary - I think it would make me too angry. I hate Thatcher and everything she stood for. Her policies wilfully f-cked up the North, Wales, Scotland... It was the birth of modern Conservative short-termism: fuck tomorrow, it's all about profits NOW.
I don't think she was a moron. She knew what she was doing: hateful but competent. By contrast, Boris Johnson: hateful and incompetent. Not sure which is worse.
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Feb 2024
9:35am, 2 Feb 2024
25,758 posts
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richmac
To me Thatcher. Is responsible for so much that's wrong in today's society today.
. Her government stripped hope and expectation from vast swathes is society while simultaneously and very obviously handing wealth to another section.
She created the conditions that allowed a wide spread rise in drug use, gangs and organised crime.
Causing the shit hole northern constituencies Cleverly mocks.
She had no plan for after, I don't believe she cared just hung the working classes out to dry for what?
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Feb 2024
9:36am, 2 Feb 2024
38,281 posts
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Ness
In 1984 I was in sixth form in a school in North Warwickshire. A number of my friends had family working in the pits in the area. There was Baddesley, Daw Mill and Birch Coppice still open at the time. I hated what Thatcher did. It broke some of those families. She had a chemistry degree iirc but she was so determined to break the unions she wouldn't consider the potential that the coal mining industry might have. She was, in my opinion, truly unpleasant!
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Feb 2024
9:47am, 2 Feb 2024
12,552 posts
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Joopsy
Fair point McG, moron is not apt. Evil is more appropriate, it makes me so angry when I see politicians now actually trying to gain credence by channelling the spirit of Thatcher, whilst also espousing the importance of levelling up.
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Feb 2024
10:00am, 2 Feb 2024
2,941 posts
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Muttley
+1 for what she turned the Tory party into.
I'll give her credit for organizing the Falklands campaign, not sure anyone else could have done that.
But her stewardship of the economy was disastrous. North Sea oil and gas was a bonanza and she blew it on ... well just what exactly? Norway, the Shetlands, even Russia put some of their revenues away for a rainy day. And the Big Bang deregulation started the hero worship of the financial sector that ended with the big subprime lending crash in 2009.
Ironic that she eagerly took the UK into what her most ardent admirers of today, the Brexit ultras, hate ... the single market!
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Feb 2024
10:35am, 2 Feb 2024
7,411 posts
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bigleggy
I don't live in a mining community but at school we were visited by the Police to discuss potential future careers. They bragged about the overtime they were earning by working the pickets, how they'd had double glazing and foreign holidays on the money they earnt.
I asked them how they slept at night and got kicked out.
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Flashback - NYT game
Jun 2024