Indoor Rowing
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Jun 2020
1:56pm, 29 Jun 2020
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Rog T
Shame you weren't race ready but the best call if you weren't feeling it. I 'tuned in' for a little while and watched the ladies 30-39 500m. The winner was amazing and she'd only been rowing for a month! Struggling to fit everything in that I want to do at the moment (and I'm still not back to full work) so not much rowing for me. Will just need to plan better 😃 |
Jun 2020
5:16pm, 29 Jun 2020
36,622 posts
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Nellers
I've been looking at that Rathburn Training Guide in a bit more detail and seeing what a plan built to their guidelines might look like. rathburn.net I'll be honest, to me it looks pretty top-heavy. There seems to be a heavy emphasis on anaerobic threshold work (which makes sense) but relatively little aerobic base building. Has anyone else tried using Rathburn-based plans and have any thoughts? |
Jul 2020
10:58am, 4 Jul 2020
660 posts
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Cats Whiskers
Thanks for the link to the Rathburn guide, Nellers. I’ve not tried using it, but it looks more like the kind of plan you’d follow for a whole year during on and off seasons rather than picking up in the build-up for an event. In that way it mirrors the kind of periodisation of training I did for sprinting - longer sessions with shorter recovery in the winter to build the aerobic base with a much heavier emphasis on the threshold/anaerobic stuff building up to and during racing season. So I can follow the logic that way. I’m going to take a closer look at that as there’s a lot of useful stuff in there about HR, training zones and stroke rates, and also the technique section. Not sure I’d dip into the plans too much though, because the idea of everything building up to one big event doesn’t seem to mesh too well with normal life (well, not for me, anyway). I think I prefer the Pete Plan approach with shorter cycles of training that prepare you better for several TT attempts over a shorter period of time. |
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Jul 2020
12:09pm, 4 Jul 2020
36,639 posts
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Nellers
I've been doing a bit of reading and viewing from a YouTube coach called Travis Gardner, CW. His view, especially, is that rowing has an over-emphasis on regular testing which leads to very short-term planning in terms of development. You're only ever shooting for the month end test rather than building long term, so you never build a big enough base to support really top end performance. Whilst I agree with him for top end performers I also think that for us lot playing at it there's a big risk with putting all our eggs in one basket, no matter how shiny the basket might be. Definitely some interesting stuff around the prescribed stroke rates for paces which I've not been doing with my mainly-nellerised-Wolverine plan so far though, and I'm trying to think a bit more about how I use some of this stuff to get better at rowing rather than just able to row faster. |
Jul 2020
7:05pm, 5 Jul 2020
741 posts
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Muttley
Taking a few days out to regain the mojo ...
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Jul 2020
9:06pm, 5 Jul 2020
36,644 posts
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Nellers
Sending positive vibes your way Muttley. Take care of yourself and do what you need to do mate.
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Jul 2020
11:14am, 7 Jul 2020
744 posts
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Muttley
Cheers Nellers, but there's nothing wrong with me, just lost the erging vim for a bit. I need to spend some time and draw up a training plan to suit myself. Been looking at that Rathburn document, which I already had but it's worth a revisit. 30 minutes steady done this morning, just for the metres.
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Jul 2020
9:31pm, 9 Jul 2020
36,673 posts
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Nellers
A lot going on at Nellers Towers this last week or so with redecorating and tradesmen and such so I have to say it's hit my training quite a bit. I'm still managing something every day but it's not often been rowing. I did a steady 10k this morning and that's my first metres since Sunday. There's an outside chance of some more tomorrow and I expect to do a session on Sunday but it's patchy and inconsistent. Just ticking over really. |
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Jul 2020
10:25am, 10 Jul 2020
661 posts
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Cats Whiskers
It's been quiet on here this week! Hope the work on your house has gone smoothly, Nellers, and hope you get your mojo back soon, Muttley. I've not managed to do much this week either - it's been a heavy week at work and all the rain has ruled out backyard rowing for a few days. I might manage a short session later if I see a patch of blue in the sky, though. |
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Jul 2020
10:58am, 10 Jul 2020
662 posts
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Cats Whiskers
Nellers, that's an interesting view from Travis Gardner. Like you say, there's logic in that approach for top athletes aiming for international competitions with very big carrots at the end of it. I know that I need something to train for and that whatever it is needs to be attainable. Realistically, that's SBs and PBs and maybe ranking positions rather than race positions. So shorter term plans that theoretically keep you closer to being "race" sharp are probably a better bet. But thinking about the importance of base training has also made me think about the running I've been doing recently. I started joining my club's Zoom intervals sessions back in April as a kind of run/walk alternative to the C25K programme. Although my intervals pace has dropped by up to 2 mins per mile since then, I still can't run for much further than a mile without losing the will to live, so unless I'm going to return to track racing, I need to bite the bullet and do some proper base training. |
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