Indoor Rowing

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Dec 2019
5:21pm, 7 Dec 2019
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Nellers
And tonight I popped. Planned session of 3 x 5km at easy HR/L4 pace. Managed the first 5km then really struggled to keep any pace for the first 2km of the second and binned it off. I just had no power. There was no push in my legs.

I'd already done a short run and some press-ups/pull ups/abs this morning and an hour of rowing plus weights yesterday. Thursday was a 4 x 3km tempo session plus a run and the press-ups/pull ups/abs too.

I think I'm just a bit knackered! Taking it easy tonight and see if I feel up to doing an easy-paced session tomorrow or not.
Dec 2019
7:32pm, 7 Dec 2019
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Cats Whiskers
Sounds like a sensible decision to rest rather than push yourself. Hope you’re feeling perkier tomorrow!
Dec 2019
12:22pm, 8 Dec 2019
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Muttley
Sounds to me like you're overdoing it, Nellers. Stepping back once in a while does no harm.

On the subject of stepping back ... involuntarily in my case, I tried a couple of thousand metres without the straps today. Feels very odd and imposes a shortened movement but it did have me thinking about pushing with the middle of the foot not the ball, and not leaning back at the end. I had no pace, couldn't get above about 17 spm, and didn't break sweat so didn't feel I was getting a proper workout. And the broken toe started twingeing towards the end so I stopped. Not convinced, but I'll have a few more goes.
Dec 2019
12:32pm, 8 Dec 2019
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Nellers
Yes, I think with things as they are I have patches where I can't row so when I can I go for it, and sometimes that's a bit OTT in the short term. Day off today. Maybe some stretching.

On the unstrapped thing I think it's worth sticking with. If it feels like it's stopping you lean back as far as you normally would that's probably a sign that you normally lean back too far. When I first tried it I was very wobbly and struggled until I got the lean under control. Now I find 20spm is comfortable and I can get close to my strapped pace for that rate. Maybe switch the display to the force curve and see what's going on with how and when you're applying the power.

If it's bothering the foot, though, maybe try shorter pieces.
Dec 2019
12:56pm, 8 Dec 2019
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Cats Whiskers
Good move to have a day off Nellers. It’s difficult when your routine won’t allow you to train consistently throughout the week/month but hopefully things will settle down for you soon and you’ll be able to spread things out a bit more.

Muttley - sounds like you’re improving if you felt ready to try some rowing. Hopefully won’t be too long before you’re back.

I agree with Nellers about sticking with the unstrapped pieces if you can. I was all over the place when I first started but can now maintain a higher s/r, similar stroke length and overall pace isn’t far off my strapped pace on warm-up/steady pieces. To begin with I felt it was cutting my stroke short but now I think that’s because I had a lot of “bad length” going off, which I’ve tried to cut out. Perhaps predictably it seems to work the stabilising muscles more, which makes strapped rowing feel a bit easier. I’ve also tried using the force curve display and agree that’s a good way to see what’s going on.
Dec 2019
7:03pm, 8 Dec 2019
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sallykate
Volunteering at BRIC was again a fabulous experience. I was there all day this time and was managing the warm up area, taking the chance to watch some of the races where I could.

No GB elites this year as they were all in Spain in a training camp, with an eye on Tokyo 2020. But Eric Murray was there to participate in a relay, and Tom Cruise turned up to support his director's Y10 daughter!

Highlights for me were seeing a para rower smash the world record for 2000m fixed seat rowing (7:23 - using only his upper body) and the relays at the end, which are totally mad with team members almost literally jumping off and on the erg. There were a few GB para rowers. There's a short summary here: britishrowing.org

The FV50-54 lowest time was just over 9 minutes, so if I can get mine below 9 mins then I really have no excuse for not participating next year...
Dec 2019
11:23pm, 9 Dec 2019
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Craggy
Wise to listen to your body Nellers, looks like you've been training well so a few easy days won't hurt.

The strapless rowing will get easier Muttley 👍

Sounds like you had fun volunteering at BRIC SK, hopefully you'll be competing next year, sub 9 is a good target.

Day off work today and I had the house to myself so I set up In front of the TV, put on a film and pressed 'just row" Film wasn't the best tbh but I stuck with it and by the time it finished I'd rowed just over half marathon distance, so I rounded it up to 14 miles 👍
Dec 2019
12:39pm, 12 Dec 2019
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Nellers
That was a monster effort there Craggy. I hope it was a good film.

Had a non-rowing day yesterday as I took another step in my running comeback in the morning and felt a bit off colour in the afternoon but this morning dawned with me feeling a bit more myself so...…

5 x 1500m @ 1:58ish average with 1km recovery. Quite surprised that I got the fifth one done as part-way through no. 3 I was thinking that finishing 4 would be a huge achievement. Feeling a bit better about the day after that.

What have the rest of you been up to? It's been a bit quiet in here.
Dec 2019
12:49pm, 12 Dec 2019
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Cats Whiskers
Glad you're feeling more yourself today, Nellers. Good to complete the session, too.

Agreed about Craggy's monster effort. I've just done 10K and can't imagine keeping it going for more than twice the time/distance.

Sounds like a great experience at BRIC, SK. Glad you managed to see a few races as well as watching the warm-up. That world record using just the upper body is amazing!
Dec 2019
11:16am, 13 Dec 2019
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Muttley
I've never watched a film while rowing - you must have the volume well up to hear over the noise of the machine? Interesting idea though. I generally listen to music and have a playlist of old-school ska and rocksteady for the slow steady stuff and then what Muttley Jnr would call "dad rock" for the more energetic stuff.

The strapless didn't go too well. The broken toe started hurting and I think it was because without the footstraps I was "holding on" to the footplate at the end of each stroke. Whatever it was, it didn't feel good. So today I experimented and reckon that I've been strapping the foot in too low anyway. With the straps across the foot at its widest point (as advised by Dark Horse and others) it felt better. Some more trial and error needed but I managed to do a couple of thousand metres slow without mishap.

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How about a little league of 2000m times to see what we're up against:

Oranj (1988 vintage): 6:44.6
Jef(2010 vintage): 6:46.6
Foppotee 6:51.6
sinj999:6:58.9
Nellers: 7:02.6
Pothunter (2005 vintage): 7:06
Jef: 7:06.4
Craggy:7:08.6
_andy 7:10.9
Gym_Bunny: 7:16.9
Maclennane: 7:18.9
theOtherRichard: 7:22.5
Mouseytongue: 7:30.2
Rog T 7:33.9
Oranj: 7:37.6
Rich963: 7:39.3
NDWDave: 7:51.4
lammo: 7:56
Tiger Feet: 8:00.1
Muttley: 8:08.5
Cats Whiskers: 8:16.8
Fenners reborn 8:25
Angus Clydesdale: 8:47.2
BanjoBax: 9:13
Sally Kate: 9:18
Lesley C: 9:19
HellsBells: 9:23.1
Sweetie: 9:27
alpenrose: 10:03
GregP: 10:03

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