Inbetweenies - not skinny, not fat, need to lose around a stone ...

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azx Mar 2021 12:49pm, 6 Mar 2021 65 posts	0 azx 2k?! You should've invited us all along!
FenlandRunner Mar 2021 1:05pm, 6 Mar 2021 6,016 posts	0 FenlandRunner It was only 12+ miles then 12 minutes on the static .
Welshpoppy Mar 2021 1:16pm, 6 Mar 2021 643 posts	0 Welshpoppy I think it shows how different we burn calories .If I ran 12 miles I would burn 1200.It sucks being a female and short;-)
Shades Mar 2021 2:18pm, 6 Mar 2021 413 posts	0 Shades WP - my gym instructor and I had long discussions on exercise calories. As I'm used to running he pointed out that I'm likely to be efficient and not using as many calories as someone newer to running. So we calculated that best estimate is weight in kg per mile, irrespective of pace. So a 60kg person roughly 60 calories per mile. It doesn't matter to me as I don't use my exercise calories but have a higher daily allowance. When I'm able to get to the gym I'll go back on that daily allowance which is 1.8 X my BMR, as I'm trying to gain muscle and lose fat. I lose weight on that allowance.
Totriornottotri Mar 2021 2:42pm, 6 Mar 2021 1,496 posts	0 Totriornottotri Nice. Numbers still going the right way. Well done all. My post on previous page meant to say boredom not bored men 😂
Rosehip Mar 2021 2:53pm, 6 Mar 2021 19,957 posts	0 Rosehip Shades, I've had the same thought about the cals I use many times. In theory it's physics - work done is mass x distance moved, the lighter you are the fewer calories per mile and whether or not you are efficient at running shouldn't impact that. But chances are your "used to running" efficiency just moves you those miles quicker than for a beginner, which means that you're not using as many "base" calories for each mile as it's not taking you as long. So it all depends on whether the calories given by a watch are in addition to basal metabolic rate or include them. My watch gives me ~110-115 cals per mile (more if there's a hill, which makes sense as work also includes extra for working against gravity in that case), and I subtract ~1 cal per minute or 12 per mile for bmr and use ~100 cals per mile. As I lose weight (hopefully) the bmr and the work will both drop, but not by a huge amount.
FenlandRunner Mar 2021 3:02pm, 6 Mar 2021 6,017 posts	0 FenlandRunner It's only a guide, calories burnt per mile. With a +/- % margin of error. As somebody suggested a few pages ago, it's not about an individual day, it's a long haul built over many weeks/months/years.
Rosehip Mar 2021 3:15pm, 6 Mar 2021 19,958 posts	0 Rosehip If you run 75 miles a week and log 110 per mile and only burn 90 over base that's 1500 a week and nearly half a pound of fat - Agree that for a few miles it's hardly relevant but for higher mileage over a longer time it counts. On the other hand, calories in is also a very inexact measure so it's all very much a rough guide.
FenlandRunner Mar 2021 3:24pm, 6 Mar 2021 6,019 posts	0 FenlandRunner Very true. I've checked and both my GPS watch and the 'app' know your weight and also pace. So although not perfect, it is a fair approximation.
Shades Mar 2021 3:56pm, 6 Mar 2021 414 posts	0 Shades Rosehip - firstly I just laugh at my Garmin's calorie estimate for a run. They are set to exaggerate for most of us to make us feel good about ourselves. The calculations I use is not about pace, it's about distance. So if I walk a mile I use the same amount of calories as if I run it as I've moved the same weight an equal distance. I don't take any notice if a run is hilly as I have to also get down the same hills which requires less effort than running up or on the flat. Distance running also enables us to train the body to be more efficient and use more fat and less glycogen. Fenland - I agree, it's definitely the bigger picture that is the key to getting the stats right. My base mileage is 50 mpw and we took that into consideration calculating my calorie allowance. My instructor works with a lot of the gym members to achieve their goals. He recommends using MFP and getting the macros right for whatever the individual's goal is. He's really knowledgeable when it comes to weight control as he's a boxer so used to having to prepare for a fight by putting weight on/off by losing fat and/ or gaining muscle. Many of the girls prefer to have a base number of calories, say 1200, and then eat their exercise calories on top, most of them don't lose the weight they want to or can't keep it off as some days they are too hungry and also feel that they are permanently on a diet. We're all different and it's finding what works for us. I'm lucky that I've found what works for me. I'm rarely hungry but if I am I can just eat more, sticking to my macros, and I can keep my weight stable. I still have some work to do though as with the gym being closed I expect my muscle/fat ratio has gone the wrong way. I still want to lose another 5 pounds too, but ultimate goal is to get my fat % down to 20%, I was nearly there up until November lockdown.