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Apr 2016
9:10pm, 23 Apr 2016
325 posts
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davelord
Who's organised the snooker? Seems to be even more trouble there, not short tables but almost everything else
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Apr 2016
11:17pm, 23 Apr 2016
479 posts
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jennyh
I saw him Metro_Nome, did a bit of a double take as at first glance!
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Apr 2016
3:11pm, 25 Apr 2016
819 posts
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jdarun
Just watched the C4 prog, thanks for whoever mentioned that. Two appearances for yours truly, not a starring role but being tall means I was visible several rows back on the start line, and then finishing in the background when one of the top women was being interviewed.
Might be back next year, though it depends on the dates and I might do Vienna again instead like I did last year (I think I'll be there on the day anyway for work).
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Apr 2016
3:22pm, 25 Apr 2016
27,263 posts
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Old Croc
Back to page 112 and A4's question - the steel tapes are measured to European standards. When set out a calibration course you do a calculation to allow for temperature expansion / contraction of the metal tape. Again based on recognised standards - 11 parts per million per degree below or above the standard temp of 20 deg C.
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Apr 2016
3:27pm, 25 Apr 2016
31 posts
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FergusG
Yikes, so you need to calibrate the thermometer too!
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Apr 2016
3:29pm, 25 Apr 2016
27,265 posts
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Old Croc
LOL - there is a limit
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Apr 2016
2:33pm, 26 Apr 2016
693 posts
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larkim
Just curious about measurement calibration. So, if the ambient temperature is 25degC, that's an expansion of the tape by 55 parts per million. But how can you know the temperature of the steel tape along its length, as it will be affected by direct sunlight / shade / ground temperature etc etc. Or does this fit into the "there is a limit" type measurement tolerance too!?
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Apr 2016
3:56pm, 26 Apr 2016
820 posts
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jdarun
Bearing in mind that the "short course prevention factor" safety margin is 1 part in 1000, even a 10 deg error on the measuring tape is only about a tenth of that, one part in ten thousand or to put it another way, 4 meters over a marathon. The actual manchester error was almost 1 part in 100, ten times greater than the safety margin. If it had been much less (say under 100m or 0.25%), I guess it would never have been spotted.
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May 2016
10:05am, 4 May 2016
3,246 posts
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Nelly
Latest Statement from Xtra Mile (from https://www.facebook.com/Gtrmanchestermarathon/posts/564448370346579):-
""We want to keep you updated with developments regarding the Greater Manchester Marathon course in 2013, 2014 and 2015.
Firstly, we would like to thank those of you who have taken the time to get in touch with us. We want to let you know how sorry we are to hear of the impact that it has had.
The Association of UK Course Measurers (AUKCM) is the UK’s official course measurer. We remain very upset about the situation and are currently in discussions with the AUKCM. We will let you know as soon as we have any further information.
Going forward, we appreciate that many of you have explained to us that you are less concerned about who might be responsible and more interested in the implications you may personally have as a result of running a short marathon. You have asked us how we intend to go about rectifying these. Here is what we are doing now:
• We are working to see if the results from the Greater Manchester Marathons for 2013, 2014 and 2015 can still be included in records such as the Power of 10;
• We are working with other event organisers to see if your results from the 2015 event can qualify you for these respective events;
• We are aware that Virgin Money London Marathon has accepted GFA results from 2015 for qualification for the 2017 Virgin Money London Marathon; and
• We are working with our race result service providers to provide you with an updated set of results which will show your full distance time by using your average time over the final split.
We cannot put into words how upsetting this situation has been for our whole team. It was never our intention for the event to be affected as it has been.
Once we have further news we will communicate this via our website and social media. We thank you for your continued co-operation and patience.""
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May 2016
10:10am, 4 May 2016
43 posts
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jennorocks
Cheers for the repost. Not sure how I feel. If I hadn't redone it this year I'd be more angry I guess but I got a 4 and a half min PB this time around so this just makes the PB even greater I guess. I'm sure they knew before the race this year and kept that information until after the event.
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Manchester Marathon 2021
Oct 2021