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Diogenes
Diogenes
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Dennis Mortimer. I had a lot of respect for Dennis
Cheg
Cheg
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I’ve just been going over old Euros for potential blogs. Netherlands 2008.

Beat World Champs Italy 3-0
France 4-1

Romania 2-0

Topped the group, and the promptly lost in the round of 16 to Russia. That’s got to take some beating for fast starts and early exits.
TROSaracen
TROSaracen
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World Cup 1986 - Denmark topped their Group with 3 wins, including 6-1 over Uruguay and beating West Germany (eventual finalists).

Then lost 5-1 to Spain in last 16……
Bazoaxe
Bazoaxe
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Bazoaxe
Youve convinced me. England are showing trophy winning form. Raaaar. 🏆
stuart little
stuart little
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paulcook wrote:Paul McGrath my near first choice for an all-time World XI.


And me. Best centre half I've watched by a distance. He had an unreal ability to read a game.
TROSaracen
TROSaracen
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McGrath was simultaneously a world class defender and completely crippled. Think the last portion of his career he barely trained.
Yakima Canutt
Yakima Canutt
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The media and pundits are being unfair to England - but hey, haven't we been here here with the English media and public attitude to England many, many, many times before?

I sense there is a bit of a sleeping giant here. (ie more to come). Remember how Spain for many years were a team of quality that never met expectations until they broke through.
Ocelot Spleens
Ocelot Spleens
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Ocelot Spleens
It's not that they'll get better, or that they'll get worse, it'll be the same
Derby Tup
Derby Tup
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TROSaracen wrote:McGrath was simultaneously a world class defender and completely crippled. Think the last portion of his career he barely trained.


Jim Smith played a blinder getting him to Derby for a season. Story was he didn’t train but his positional play and game management was amazing. He was still quick over a few yards but then knowing where to move to helps
TROSaracen
TROSaracen
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In fairness it’s impossible to say. There’s a better team in there, and no one (probably including Gareth himself) has any idea whether the business end of the tournament, and the jeopardy of knockout foot ball will bring that team out or not.

I’m one of those who wanted an England team who could manage their way through a tournament better; do just enough until it gets serious then peak when it matters. The serial winners of these things are good at this.

Good physical conditioning teams will have them slightly leggy and overworked early in the tournament so that fitness and freshness comes when training backs off in the last 2 weeks.

At least we get to find out soon which it is….

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