Electric car anyone?
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Jul 2020
4:30pm, 1 Jul 2020
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larkim
Ships are horrendous polluters, but as my well qualified sis points out - if they just slow down a bit they can become a fair bit less polluting.
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Jul 2020
4:32pm, 1 Jul 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
They also use sails to reduce fuel use, don't they? We have to start by stopping taking the bliddy oil out of the ground. Then it would become prohibitively expensive / impossible to get hold of and all ICE based engines would have to be replaced. Errr, that's clearly a bit simplistic!  G
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Jul 2020
4:36pm, 1 Jul 2020
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rf_fozzy
International shipping has so far evaded emissions standards, but pressure is starting to bear on them. And is actually an area where Hydrogen could be very useful - you don't even need to carry all the fuel you need for a journey with you - as you are surrounded by seawater, so you could have a H2 generator onboard and then use that to power the ship. Happy - saw that - and for "balance" - a fully electric plane (battery powered) has also been tested: theguardian.com Last bit of reading I did in the area a few years ago suggested that all the small plane journeys (e.g. Island hoppers) could quite easily be taken by fully electric planes by the mid to late 2020s and we're starting to energy densities that might get close to eventually being able to do short haul flights. Long haul is more of an issue. |
Jul 2020
4:56pm, 1 Jul 2020
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run free
G - you start the thread Enviro thread and I will support
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Jul 2020
5:05pm, 1 Jul 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
OK, will do run free! Fozzy, can I nick your above post for a starter in a general enviro thread please? G
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Jul 2020
5:33pm, 1 Jul 2020
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rf_fozzy
If you like happy!
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Jul 2020
5:48pm, 1 Jul 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
Thank you! F
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Jul 2020
5:48pm, 1 Jul 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
Oops, G (nearly changed my own name there!)
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Jul 2020
5:50pm, 1 Jul 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
Here we are run free. Let's see who turns up. I've said "no climate-change-denying trolls" but who knows?! fetcheveryone.com/forum/the-environment-thread-61513 G
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Jul 2020
5:59pm, 1 Jul 2020
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Gobi
I will stay out of that one
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