Electric car anyone?
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Aug 2021
6:51pm, 6 Aug 2021
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FenlandRunner
Perhaps it is the base model Tesla but the rear brake lights look like candles. Very low rent for an expensive motor.
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Aug 2021
1:34pm, 9 Aug 2021
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HappyTimes
£28bn per year lost revenue from fuel duty when/if we get to the removal of ICE vehicles. Any thoughts on where this will be added in taxation? |
Aug 2021
1:40pm, 9 Aug 2021
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HappyG(rrr)
Down to 20.9Bn already HT! I'm not sure it's quite the way to look at it. HMG gets 10Bn from tobacco, but don't think if we got smoking down to 0 in the UK, that we'd feel that the 10Bn was wasted?! Ditto fuel - the cost to the environment (and hence to the UK economy through flood and storm damage etc.) is far greater. The gov't needs to balance books. But examples might be that the green technology and industries revolution will increase employment so income tax receipts go up. Or tax on long distance flying or multiple flights per year etc.? |
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Aug 2021
1:43pm, 9 Aug 2021
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HappyG(rrr)
I had a bit of a blip on Sat/Sun. My car didn't charge overnight. I think the cable needs to be firmly in and I had put it in place rather quickly because it was raining. On Sunday I had a 130 mile round trip planned. Woke up with 150 mile range and car hadn't been charged!  It was fine, I got back with 25 miles left, which isn't too shabby given some EVs originally only had 50 mile range! But I've learned to check that car is charging at full speed before setting it to overnight charging. However, a simple innovation here would be that when plugging in cable it did a quick test of full power charging and told you if it was sub par. G
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Aug 2021
1:43pm, 9 Aug 2021
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K5 Gus
Plus loss of VED as all EVs are free (at the moment) Road pricing has been talked about as the likely way ahead, how that would work in practice I've no idea - do all cars need a black box and you get charged for every mile, or ANPR on major routes in which case back roads would become congested to avoid it, etc |
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Aug 2021
1:49pm, 9 Aug 2021
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HappyG(rrr)
I guess I just don't see it as an issue - macro economics and all that. Effectively, you want to tax bad things or affordable things and subsidise good things or hard things. Simples. You don't have to tax driving / transport at all, if you don't want. You can just tax people. But I'd say for example that in the future when there are auto driving cars, you could tax: car ownership (non-use); single occupancy (low-use); new purchase (lack of re-use) etc. G
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Aug 2021
1:53pm, 9 Aug 2021
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mrs shanksi
I agree with you HappyG, we need to stop using ICEs for the sake of the environment, whatever the tax implications imo.
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Aug 2021
1:57pm, 9 Aug 2021
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HappyTimes
HG The spend on flood prevention and after effects will still be there though will it not. At least for a good long period. I don't believe we are going to be in position of reversing the climate changes we have already seen, we are at best for some time only going to slow them. Clearly we need to move to a far more sustainable way of life and live WITH our planet. Is raping it of a different finite resource the best answer ? Transport isn't really a choice for many, it's a necessity and taxing/pricing them out of that isn't in my eyes that helpful overall either. |
Aug 2021
1:33pm, 10 Aug 2021
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roflaherty
I'm picking my new ID.3 up on Friday!!
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Aug 2021
3:12pm, 11 Aug 2021
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Fizz :-)
Wasn't there a link recently about electrifying roads? A press release from my employer last week . . . theconstructionindex.co.uk |
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