Elderly parents or relatives to care for and/or worry about? This is the place for you.

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Oct 2023
8:09am, 13 Oct 2023
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Ness
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Oct 2023
8:29am, 13 Oct 2023
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HappyG(rrr)
What is his mental health condition Bazo? Can he be treated for it? Might benefit him and the rest of the family too? Wishing you all and MiL well. :-) G
Oct 2023
8:32am, 13 Oct 2023
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Serendippily
It is really hard Bazo. If he is having some kind of shutdown the expectation and disappointment may mean he literally cannot be relied on. In my experience he may only be in contact when he can take on more emotion and those moments may be few and far between. But he still seems to be occasionally trying. Or maybe hes a complete shit. Or both. Im really sorry you and mrs Bax are left in such an impossible situation either way
Oct 2023
8:51am, 13 Oct 2023
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Bazoaxe
HG. We don’t know really as he will not speak to us and I think he sees us as part of the problem hence why we are shut out his life. This seems to be what his counsellor has told him to do.

We believe he is being treated for it but it is very hard to know. We have tried to reach out and see if we can find common ground but ever since January of this year he has shut every communication avenue down. We could turn up at his door which we did do about three years ago when the signs first started. We did also meet him and his partner in December and seemed to have resolved things. In fact he was coming to ours at Christmas until we had to cancel due to covid in the house.

It’s a knife edge as we don’t want to make him worse but also it’s having such an impact on everyone else and us close to driving others to also need counselling
Oct 2023
8:59am, 13 Oct 2023
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LindsD
It sounds like it's making an already difficult situation even more difficult.
Oct 2023
9:00am, 13 Oct 2023
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Serendippily
Baz, apologies if i speak out of turn, autisminitiatives have a 5 star approach which is probably more broadly applicable in understanding challenging behaviour, and has helped me think about motivation and expectation, and what works for the individual and creates some pragmatic middle ground, regardless of whether its ‘normal’. Link here, you would need to scroll to bottom of page autisminitiatives.org
Oct 2023
9:59am, 13 Oct 2023
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Bazoaxe
Thanks. I will read that over the weekend when I have more time.

I think autism does play some part. I still maintain if BiL would meet us and talk to us we could find a way forward that helps us all. That though is not possible. It is clear email and text are just making things worse.
Oct 2023
10:21am, 13 Oct 2023
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Serendippily
I think you’re right, but if he struggles to articulate his thoughts, he risks putting himself in a situation of not being heard, while being exposed to more demands it may be painful or impossible to meet, doesn't he? It is hard to know what is blowing his mind if he won’t talk to you, but if you have the will, and i think you very much do, there will be a way. I wish you the very best of luck. And to quote the lovely Teebs, you can’t control other’s actions and reactions, but only your own. And that is hard when you are so much in the right x
Oct 2023
11:24am, 13 Oct 2023
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Little Miss Happy
Glad that MiL is comfortable Baz. Counselors won’t tell people what to do, they might suggest options for consideration or ask why the client why they do something if it causes them distress but that’s as far as it goes.
Oct 2023
11:42am, 13 Oct 2023
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Bazoaxe
Thanks both that helps

LMH interesting point. BiL has told us in the past when he was communicating with us that some of his changed behaviours were because that’s what his counsellor told him to do.

I guess we will never really know and I have always been concerned by some of these as the approach being taken started to impact others and actually make things worse for everyone including BiL

We have tried everything we can think of apart from trying contact though his partner or daughter. Both those risk making things worse and also drawing in people who we don’t believe know the details of what is going on. That may not be right or fair.

About This Thread

Maintained by LindsD
I thought I'd start a thread, as lots of us have elderly folks that we worry about/care for.

Useful info for after someone dies here (with thanks to grast_girl)
moneysavingexpert.com

Other useful links

myageingparent.com

moneysavingexpert.com

Who pays for residential care? Information here:

ageuk.org.uk

Advice on care homes and payment/funding

theguardian.com

Also: After someone dies, if their home insurance was only in their name, sadly the cover becomes void. But if the policy was in joint names, it will still cover the surviving policyholder (though the names on the policy will need to be updated).

A useful book of exercises for memory loss and dementia
amazon.co.uk

Pension Credit. The rules are a bit complex but if your elderly relative has some sort of disability (in this case dementia/Alzheimer's) and go into a home, they may be able to claim pension credit. So if carers allowance stops, it seems pension credit can start. It can also be backdated.

Fall alarm company, etc.

careium.co.uk

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