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Sep 2020
11:12pm, 18 Sep 2020
7,439 posts
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WA
I'm interested to know JR if you feel that returning to normal is positive. My understanding is that once the R number increases, the risk increases, and the risk is to all of us. And although there are parts of the population who are at increased risk, the disease can just as well cut down others in their prime. How can the country as a whole manage that risk?
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Sep 2020
11:13pm, 18 Sep 2020
30,590 posts
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Mrs Jigs (Luverlylegs)
JR - I have family in Australia, I would dearly love to see my grandsons but I accept and so do they that for the time being that can’t happen, we are very fortunate to be able to see each other via video calls, I am grateful to be living in a time when that is possible. At the moment I am not even visiting family I have in England, it’s the sensible way to behave. I care enough for them that I wouldn’t want to risk potential infection, I have no reason to believe that I have been in contact with Covid but I do not know for sure.
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Sep 2020
11:13pm, 18 Sep 2020
43,952 posts
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Lip Gloss
My OH’s son has not seen his wife in over a year, firstly due to a f**k up with paperwork ( long story) and now because of COVID .. He is here and she is in USA
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Sep 2020
11:16pm, 18 Sep 2020
883 posts
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JR
WA - As the saying goes - only two things in life are certain - death & taxes. If CV19 is not the cause of your demise something eventually will be. If we carry on as at present the risk of premature death from other causes - poverty, suicide, cancer (due to late diagnosis etc) will rise. That is a bigger risk to the bulk of the population than CV19 IMO. Not to mention that locking ourselves away is likely to reduce general health.
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Sep 2020
11:19pm, 18 Sep 2020
11,463 posts
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geordiegirl
Missed the comment on not being allowed to leave the country - not importing and exporting the virus is key, keep what you’ve got and deal with that. We have people flirting everywhere and little to no checks on entry.
Even arriving in HK and Australia earlier this year we had temperatures taken, on return to UK in full lockdown there wasn’t even instruction on what UK conditions were.
The sooner we have control the sooner life can return to some semblance of normal.
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Sep 2020
11:21pm, 18 Sep 2020
884 posts
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JR
I honestly feel sad for people who feel unable to visit their parents. My father has vascular dementia & his reality is very unlikely to live much longer. I could have chosen to stay away from him as he’s ‘high risk’ & ‘might’ catch CV19. Instead as a family we have instead taken care to reduce seekk in g others (no pub visits, no eat out to help out) & instead prioritised seeing them. As a result we have had initial garden visit & two subsequent weekends with my parents in their caravan. When my Dad does eventually pass away I will be pleased to have spent time with him over the last few months rather than let him & my mother be isolated on their own.
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Sep 2020
11:21pm, 18 Sep 2020
11,464 posts
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geordiegirl
On cancer diagnosis. My uncle was diagnosed with cancer in May 3 weeks after first going to the doctors (2 weeks was trying antibiotics as they thought it was an infected lymph node) 2 weeks later he started treatment. As routine appointments were cancelled they had ability to focus on urgent cases.
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Sep 2020
11:24pm, 18 Sep 2020
11,465 posts
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geordiegirl
JR you are allowed to see vulnerable people to assist with care. I won’t see my parents like I have been but I’ll see them from the porch as I drop shopping off. Also lucky they can manage to FaceTime.
If I was in same situation as you with your parents I’d bubble with them and see them taking as many precautions as possible.
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Sep 2020
11:33pm, 18 Sep 2020
7,440 posts
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WA
I work with stroke survivors in the first weeks of discharge from hospital. I know that initially there were fewer people presenting with stroke symptoms at hospital, but we are more or less back up to normal figures. There is fear about presenting to hospital or GP, and there are delays in health service responses
My question is still the same- what would you do? You're taking extra care in your own life to protect your dad, why would you do that if there is no risk?
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Sep 2020
11:34pm, 18 Sep 2020
885 posts
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JR
I refuse to use the term ‘bubble’ They are my family & we are spending time with them as the time when we can is rapidly decreasing due to reduced life expectancy. Regardless of bubbles or whatever term BoJo dreams up next I’d be seeing them. Contrary to what BoJo says my moral responsibility to my family. Others are free to make their own decisions on how they protect their family.
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