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Coronavirus **support** thread

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Jul 2020
6:26pm, 3 Jul 2020
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Grast_girl
This article has the data for various regions, makes for quite interesting reading:

bbc.co.uk
Jul 2020
6:36pm, 3 Jul 2020
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PenW
I work in a hospital. I am careful because I do not want to catch it as I don’t know whether I am at higher risk and I do get the flu jab/have been offered the pneumonia jab. I have got used to being around others (often fairly closely) as I’ve had to, and take as many precautions as I can. Many of my colleagues are overly complacent (in my opinion) - there is huge variation.

One thing I found interesting from a lecture I attended recently on uncertainty distress in the current situation: it is actually difficult if not impossible to diagnose anyone with an anxiety disorder around this situation at present as an anxiety disorder implies overestimation of threat when due to the many levels of uncertainty about the true threat, it is not actually possible to say that someone is overestimating the threat level.

An example given: pre-pandemic, anyone carrying hand sanitiser and obsessively cleaning their hands may be suggestive of possible OCD. Now someone doing the same would be seen as behaving in an understandable way that is within normal limits. (This from a world expert on OCD)

For me, I have become very aware through my job that when someone is hospitalised with COVID, it is not simply about living or dying. For those that survive it can involve months or years of recovery (in worst cases) with significant psychological morbidity (eg PTSD) and in some cases life changing effects (physically). We still don’t know the true impact.
Jul 2020
6:41pm, 3 Jul 2020
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It’s good to get the first day out the way msG I think I may have an anti fog layer on my glasses
They traced an infection to someone who sat in the same pew and I believe used the same prayer book a few hours after a confirmed Covid case. Inside and singing and for an extended time appeared to be enough to create an infectious dose
Jul 2020
6:56pm, 3 Jul 2020
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Thanks grast_girl
MsG
Jul 2020
7:33pm, 3 Jul 2020
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MsG
LMH - my prescription and hayfever means monthly / overnight lenses don't work. My usual lenses are great, are comfortable for 12 hours; 5am is just a little early to be sticking stuff in your eye.

New job is fine, will get used to it and will be better with the screens in.
Jul 2020
8:04pm, 3 Jul 2020
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Dvorak
Re PenW's point above:

I was glad of the screens in my local Co-op tonight ... As the person putting my shopping through coughed over it several times, only covering their mouth once*. With more vulnerable people in the house, I have been washing or sanitising the shopping (some stuff is just left two or three days) anyway. Tonight it was straight in for a hot soapy hand wash,, then all the chilled stuff had a hot soapy wash (even the ice-cream!), then a cold rinse, with a couple of things having an extra rub down with sanitiser. (I suppose it doesn't take that long, but after months of it, it's a bit wearing).

If you'd told me even four months ago that this would be "normality", well.

The only person in the shop wearing a mask (more a respirator looking thing) passed me twice going the wrong way in the one way system. Sigh. (She apologised the second time.)

* This person had been off a few weeks recently. On return, I wondered if she'd had a stroke. She's been more her usual self, but tbh approaching the counter I'd the feeling that she wasn't quite right somehow. I realise that it's highly unlikely she's infected, but ...
Jul 2020
8:46pm, 3 Jul 2020
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Ultra Sparkly Bridget (USB)
geordie girl - many of us have become so used to wearing a surgical mask all day that we forget it is there. More than once this week I have been sitting at my desk in my office (not shared) and realised I am still wearing it. At one point on the ward I put on the full FFP3 mask, went to test the seal and realised I still had the other one on. A friend tried to eat cake through hers!

So yes, you can get very used to wearing a mask
Jul 2020
10:17pm, 3 Jul 2020
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Little Nemo
Going back a few pages!

Jennyh - I've done a couple of train journeys and these have been fine. Admittedly they were only around 30 mins and the train was pretty empty but I didn't find wearing a mask too bad and I didn't get travel sick at all. It's slightly worse on the tube, maybe because it stops and starts more? Bus today was bad but the absolute worst has been the mini cabs! But that may have been because they tend to drive like nutters :-o

But I don't know what it would be like to wear a mask for a long train journey. I imagine a lot of people would take them off! I was supposed to do a long train journey for work but I'm trying to postpone it until the mask wearing is no longer mandatory or not go at all.
Jul 2020
2:11am, 4 Jul 2020
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run free
Going back many pages, Hamburg Marathon has now suspended registration, and all information about how it would run has been removed:

"Dear participants,

In its state press conference today, the City of Hamburg , with regard to the approval or prohibition of major sporting events, did not make any binding statements or adopt any regulations. Particularly against the background of the question of how spectator flows in public spaces can be controlled or limited in order to ensure that distance and hygiene guidelines are also observed off the track, it remains unclear whether and to what extent we as organisers will be held responsible for this. As long as there is no clarity on this issue, we have suspended registration for the Haspa Marathon Hamburg and the Haspa Half Marathon Hamburg on September 13 until further notice. We will keep you informed of further developments and ask you to refrain from enquiries or speculation. For this and for your patience we would like to thank you expressly.

Yours in sport
Your Haspa Marathon Hamburg Team"
Jul 2020
6:08am, 4 Jul 2020
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plodding hippo
Yes. Communication is much more difficult with masks on..not just because of the lack of facial expressions...but it is genuinely more difficult to hear people.
The surgeons tell me that in full PPE, operating takes twice as long and the difficulty in hearing has led to some serious mistakes.

It's quite a trade off

About This Thread

Maintained by DocM
PLEASE NOTE
There is a separate discussion thread for debating the grander scheme of things here: fetcheveryone.com/forum/coronavirus-discussion-thread-61609

Go there if you want to talk about whether it's real, whether the government are trying to control us, etc, etc.

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information, discussion and support about the unfolding Covid-19 outbreak
NO politics please
And above all please be kind and respect others points of view and concerns.

microbiologists view byFlatlander
Science of coronavirus
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/3#blog403867
coronavirus testing by Flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/4#blog405255

information for ashtma sufferers
asthma.org.uk

information for pregnancy
rcog.org.uk

imperial article
imperial.ac.uk
imperial.ac.uk

Government advice gov.uk

advice for those with RA and autoinmmune diseases
nras.org.uk

diabetes advice
diabetes.org.uk

explaination of the maths of the growth of the epidemic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg&fbclid=IwAR3exg0rG_Bz3gPqjXY3rcFajqVSk-cOK5lQGVkYcuzoMOdNEp7VTgH-Kac&app=desktop


tips to help you cope
drive.google.com

Advice to stay at home
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk

planning for and what to do if you are ill
covid-at-home.info
support for self isolates
nhsvolunteerresponders.org.uk

Ft coronavirus tracker
ft.com

A good article about dealing with the feelings of grief that the current situation has given us hbr.org

advice on self isolation for indivuals with symptoms or and their household
gov.uk

seven day rolling averages
ourworldindata.org

A sustainable exit strategy document
institute.global

susceptibility to covid by flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/5#blog406151

bromage article
erinbromage.com

government guidelines 11th may for England(NI, Scotland and Wales linked at the bottom of article)
gov.uk

breathing practice
physiotherapyforbpd.org.uk

lancet articles
thelancet.com

help with mask anxiety
psychologytoday.com

tracker
travellingtabby.com
theguardian.com
video of droplet dispersal
https://youtu.be/DNeYfUTA11s
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