Coronavirus **support** thread

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Jun 2020
7:17am, 4 Jun 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
I prefer the office. The part of work I like the best is socialising with colleagues. WFH sucks.

Not sure I'd call it a class divide. There are high paid workers who can't work from home surgeons, pilots, actors? And lower paid who can: call centre, assistants, admin ? As you say run free, maybe more a politics thread chat.

Here's a happy email. Just got first results email in from a NZ 5km that I almost did 10 years ago. They ran for first time this week.2 waves 20 in first 13 in second and met at the pub st the finish. First race results I've seen for over 2 months! :-) G
Jun 2020
7:24am, 4 Jun 2020
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Lip Gloss
DiL is feeling it this week as son is away and she is wfh and a 5 year old homeschooling. The schooling isn’t so bad but it’s the lack of adult conversation with not being in an office environment.
Jun 2020
7:32am, 4 Jun 2020
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jennyh
Same here LMH.

I’d say the class divide isn’t cut and dried when it comes to wfh - as you say, some high paid jobs can’t be done from home, but also some of the lower paid roles you mentioned there Happy G, yes it may be possible to wfh in practical terms of doing the job, but they may be in much smaller spaces, house shares etc., which make it harder in other ways.

In our case - I know we’re both lucky to still be in full time employment, but our house is tiny, it’s very difficult having two of us wfh in such a small space - OH’s work set up is okay but not great, mine is terrible (both likely to cause back trouble long term, in my case also neck and wrist issues and probably deteriorating eyesight as well - yes, I know, there are people worse off and these are small considerations in the grand scheme of things).

Doesn’t help that our team is very top-heavy with managers, so every time we have a team meeting I see they’re all sat in their massive, light, airy houses, often in a different room each time - I’ve never been really envious of others before, but it does make it harder at the moment.

Apologies if this isn’t appropriate to post on this thread.

G - that is good news :-) Would be great if we could get back to racing at some point.
Jun 2020
7:32am, 4 Jun 2020
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TeeBee
My dh went back to the office a couple of weeks ago (leaving at 6am and getting home around 7pm).

I've found being at home with a 15yr old all day every day on my own really hard work. (Single parents I really salute you) I really resent working all day while he's doing square root of bugger all to help without me confiscating the PS4 controllers.
Jun 2020
7:44am, 4 Jun 2020
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BexleyKev
Office monkeys? Really?
Jun 2020
7:45am, 4 Jun 2020
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DocM
I remember when my children were small how hard the lack of adult conversation was when in the house all day. The future is definitely going to be a change and flexibility needs to be a part of it. I wonder if some of the measures we have learnt from wfh and social distancing will impact on the annual morbidity due to flu and norovirus etc ?
Jun 2020
8:04am, 4 Jun 2020
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Roberto
I'm anticipating still being primarily office based but with the flexibility of wfh a day or two a week depending on what jobs/home visits I have to do. Most of my main job is going out doing home visits or attending meetings at the council or schools. The writing up can be done at home.

We havent been doing home visits and been carrying them out over video call, but its put a real strain on many of our placements and we are eager to get back out visiting and providing practical support again (have still been doing practical where placements are finding it difficult but its very different)
Jun 2020
8:14am, 4 Jun 2020
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bonners
@bexleykev, thank you. Couldn't have put it better myself.
Jun 2020
8:15am, 4 Jun 2020
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sallykate
I also don't have a dedicated room to work from. When we bought our flat 15 years ago OH was still working on his PhD and I was pregnant, so we went for a three bedroom place so that he'd have somewhere to work. We're still here and it's still his study. I have to use the dining room table and I'm not willing to turn that into a permanent work space by having a separate monitor etc. Add to that having a teen working across the table from me - yes, she could do some work in her own room but that's also not a very good set up compared to what she has at school, where the kids are generally working in pairs or teams.

We haven't owned a car for nearly 20 years now, my commute is either by bike or train, so I do agree that if WFH can reduce car journeys it's a definite positive. I'm used to working from home, working for large global organisations I tended to work with people in other countries rather than people in the same base office as me, so to some extent there was precious little point in going to the office unless I had specific meetings or wanted to use the resources there such as printing. But there is a real value in working face to face in many cases; now I'm working for a London university in a small team and I was enjoying being back in an office for a whole two weeks before this all hit.

DocM norovirus figures are way down though there's a caveat around how much CV-19 is affecting the normal routine of reporting and testing.
Jun 2020
8:29am, 4 Jun 2020
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Bazoaxe
Everyone’s situation re working is different. I agree with HappyG. There are elements that are much better F2F and from an introvert like me that’s hard for me to say.

My commute before was my exercise of running or cycling. There is no carbon saving for me and actually I am exercising less and working more now.

The days are full of calls with no chance for a walk in any short breaks as that time is required to deal with emails and actions from the calls.

I did get walk breaks in the office as I had to travel between different building and don’t have that now.

Just need to get my head down and get on with it.

There is a step challenge thing going on at work right now and some people are recording huge volumes. Way more than I rack up in my 70 ish miles of running in a week. How does that work. Have they strapped their step counter to their dog?

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There is a separate discussion thread for debating the grander scheme of things here: fetcheveryone.com/forum/coronavirus-discussion-thread-61609

Go there if you want to talk about whether it's real, whether the government are trying to control us, etc, etc.

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information, discussion and support about the unfolding Covid-19 outbreak
NO politics please
And above all please be kind and respect others points of view and concerns.

microbiologists view byFlatlander
Science of coronavirus
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/3#blog403867
coronavirus testing by Flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/4#blog405255

information for ashtma sufferers
asthma.org.uk

information for pregnancy
rcog.org.uk

imperial article
imperial.ac.uk
imperial.ac.uk

Government advice gov.uk

advice for those with RA and autoinmmune diseases
nras.org.uk

diabetes advice
diabetes.org.uk

explaination of the maths of the growth of the epidemic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg&fbclid=IwAR3exg0rG_Bz3gPqjXY3rcFajqVSk-cOK5lQGVkYcuzoMOdNEp7VTgH-Kac&app=desktop


tips to help you cope
drive.google.com

Advice to stay at home
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk

planning for and what to do if you are ill
covid-at-home.info
support for self isolates
nhsvolunteerresponders.org.uk

Ft coronavirus tracker
ft.com

A good article about dealing with the feelings of grief that the current situation has given us hbr.org

advice on self isolation for indivuals with symptoms or and their household
gov.uk

seven day rolling averages
ourworldindata.org

A sustainable exit strategy document
institute.global

susceptibility to covid by flatlander
fetcheveryone.com/blog/37839/2020/5#blog406151

bromage article
erinbromage.com

government guidelines 11th may for England(NI, Scotland and Wales linked at the bottom of article)
gov.uk

breathing practice
physiotherapyforbpd.org.uk

lancet articles
thelancet.com

help with mask anxiety
psychologytoday.com

tracker
travellingtabby.com
theguardian.com
video of droplet dispersal
https://youtu.be/DNeYfUTA11s

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