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Ocelot Spleens Feb 2021 11:59am, 8 Feb 2021 30,153 posts	Quote Pin Ocelot Spleens that's right icemaiden, it is also a sign that lockdown can't be lifted any time soon, the infection rate is far too high.
icemaiden Feb 2021 12:31pm, 8 Feb 2021 5,104 posts	Quote Pin icemaiden Travellers according to the Indy independent.co.uk - people on business (not many), returning UK nationals who have been away on extended trips (holidays are now banned) but some have been stuck where they went or delayed returning, students from overseas trying to start or get back to UK courses, Commonwealth visitors, people from anywhere visiting the sick.
Bazoaxe Feb 2021 12:37pm, 8 Feb 2021 18,883 posts	Quote Pin Bazoaxe Tim, thats exactly the dilemma that our leaders have and I have to say that in this respect I do have a lot of sympathy with them as there are no easy answers and every decision has an impact elsewhere. You cannot keep everyone happy and deal with this effectively. I think to be honest no one has the answers and most people want to start to relax the restrictions as soon as is practical. However we cannot do that without a risk of the NHS being overwhelmed and the deaths increasing until we know the vaccine is helping. However at some stage we need to get to a position where we accept the risks and get back to how we were. We cannot keep businesses closed indefinitely and have the state paying people while others get no pay and all of the other implications. Its tough
Tim of Fife Feb 2021 12:42pm, 8 Feb 2021 3,295 posts	Quote Pin Tim of Fife Bazoaxe It is crucifying Edinburgh, where so much of the economy is based on tourism. Inrterestingly, despite zero tourism, a mind numbin 20,000 a day are still flying into the IK
Bazoaxe Feb 2021 12:45pm, 8 Feb 2021 18,885 posts	Quote Pin Bazoaxe I know, its soul destroying running round and seeing everything closed I am worried about the impact on my Brother who drives a taxi and so basically no work
fetcheveryone Feb 2021 12:58pm, 8 Feb 2021 25,633 posts	Quote Pin fetcheveryone ToF - although that's a big number, the average daily figure pre-COVID was more like 450,000 per day - so about 4.4% of normal traffic. citypopulation.de
jda Feb 2021 1:14pm, 8 Feb 2021 9,404 posts	Quote Pin jda A lot of finger crossing going on here for sure. I hope the confidence in the vaccines stopping serious illness and death (despite new variants of the virus) is warranted. Even so it will be another month at least before coverage is high enough to relax.
Ocelot Spleens Feb 2021 1:17pm, 8 Feb 2021 30,156 posts	Quote Pin Ocelot Spleens The one time I went into Manchester during the short NW non-lockdown period (even when the infections were higher in the SE and London), I was amazed at how much was still shut. It's not a tourist centre per se, but I got the feeling a lot of the retail is never opening again. I have no doubt that was happening anyway, but it would have been a slow process over years, now some big decisions (and big money) has to be spent on what a town centre is now for! It almost certainly won't be for work/retail in anyway like it was. If you own a business, why have an office when you can bung people a chair, a laptop or two, a desk and some money to build a home office? Big changes coming, and we have some dipsticks in government right now. Travel and Tourism, even within the UK is quite along way off, the noises coming out of the tourist industry will tell you that, years before we get back to pre covid levels, and travel was our thing, the stuff we looked forward too. Four holidays away missed now, 3 overseas, 1 in Scotland, that has been binned twice.
larkim Feb 2021 1:17pm, 8 Feb 2021 13,447 posts	Quote Pin larkim Is that "relax, it's over" or "relax some restrictions" jda?
K5 Gus Feb 2021 1:21pm, 8 Feb 2021 4,358 posts	Quote Pin K5 Gus Fetch, that page says "This page presents the total number of passengers carried by air carriers registered in the corresponding country, including both domestic and international passengers" So will include people leaving, and arriving ( so if you went on holiday/business and returned a few days/weeks later you'd be counted twice ), and also internal flights which we're not really worried about in terms of people bringing in virus. No idea how many on internal flights, but number of international travellers arriving in the country would likely be well under half of that ? No idea what ToF's 20,000 includes.