Coronavirus discussion thread
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Feb 2021
3:42pm, 8 Feb 2021
50 posts
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Fopp
Why not completely destroy her career because she had a few drinks with some friends. Seems fair.
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Feb 2021
4:00pm, 8 Feb 2021
25,634 posts
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fetcheveryone
Welsh players get around £5k per match, plus image rights on a campaign by campaign basis. Or at least that's what it was in 2019.
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Feb 2021
4:24pm, 8 Feb 2021
14,263 posts
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MarkyMarkMark (3M)
Difficult not to drift into Crime and Punishment territory on all this stuff. I do believe "punishment" should be proportionate to the impact of the offence and the ability of the offence to pay (or be locked away!). There's something about "from those to whom much is given, much is expected", as well as finding a sensible and humane response for behaving like the average person does in that situation (and politely, that needs to be appropriate to the 50% of the populace who are below average in each of education, ability, intelligence, wealth, etc..) Our own government seems to be very keen to levy hefty financial penalties on those who are "normal" members of the population, but which are far less significant to the big money earners, who can apparently apologise and it's okay anyway... And of course, there's been very little to encourage/incentivise people to comply rather than threaten them if they don't. (Possibly also one for the politics thread.) But a system which supported people staying away from work if required to isolate, rather than putting the burden on individuals or their employers, would seem to me to be "public health" driven rather than the threat of penalising relatively few offenders. |
Feb 2021
4:36pm, 8 Feb 2021
13,461 posts
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larkim
There is definitely something in the fact that some well off individuals (not just celebs) can use / try to use their wealth to create opportunities for themselves to be "above the law", and when they are caught it feels like they are untroubled by the financial penalty which is designed to make the ordinary citizen act in a certain way. Privately hiring an expensive venue, paying premiums to staff to (try to) assure silence etc isn't available to most of us. Finding a way of sanctioning them other than in the court of public opinion (where, to be honest, it doesn't really matter to Rita Ora that the 60yo Daily Mail reading audience is outraged, as her fan base won't react in the same way) does seem at least rational, even if the reality is that the impact of her behaviour in terms of the pandemic is probably miniscule. The real benefit of implementing large fines to stop low volume infractions vs small fines to curb high volume infractions means that the effort is properly directed to the high volume issues. |
Feb 2021
4:38pm, 8 Feb 2021
2,964 posts
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Fellrunning
Who is Rita Ora?
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Feb 2021
4:42pm, 8 Feb 2021
13,463 posts
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larkim
A popular music songstress. theguardian.com |
Feb 2021
4:57pm, 8 Feb 2021
37,624 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Wish we had emoticons to react sometimes - FR, I wanted to use a "grandad pipe and slippers" emoji to react to your fun post! With a after, of course! G
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Feb 2021
4:59pm, 8 Feb 2021
8,049 posts
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Too Much Water
I hadn’t heard of her until she kept making the news for cynical breaches of covid rules
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Feb 2021
4:59pm, 8 Feb 2021
22,843 posts
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TROSaracen
I though she made Orange squash drink.....;-)
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Feb 2021
5:07pm, 8 Feb 2021
72,871 posts
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swittle
[FR - Ms Ora has yet to appear in 'The Vicar of Dibley... ]
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