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Feb 2021
11:10am, 2 Feb 2021
14,188 posts
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MarkyMarkMark (3M)
** "A lot of the locals were avoiding the city centre anyway since at the time it had *higher* rates than the suburbs"
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Feb 2021
11:14am, 2 Feb 2021
22 posts
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Fopp
If it's not transmission Larkim, it's NHS I suppose and I see no material impact either way, even if you accumulate all 'high risk' hobbies. I just don't see it as an issue.
Staying local rules are purely about preventing the most popular spots being overrun with people and causing crowds, nothing else, so if you're travelling a long way to somewhere nobody else is going, to do something that isn't risky, it really doesn't matter.
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Feb 2021
11:20am, 2 Feb 2021
4,339 posts
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K5 Gus
Larks I think you're looking at the winter climbing thing in far too much of a one rule fits all approach.
Like most activities there are a range of difficulties in climbing ( all the climbs on the Ben are graded using a recognised scale ), and there are obviously also a range of proficencies amongst climbers.
An expert winter climber undertaking a medium grade climb is actually a pretty low risk activity, whereas a novice trying the hardest climb they've ever done is a different matter entirely.
Hopefully in the current situation, climbers are knocking things back a grade or two.
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Feb 2021
11:26am, 2 Feb 2021
3,273 posts
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Tim of Fife
In the Forth the other day, there were a couple of Paddle Boarders maybe two miles out. They were fine. Just trying to get closer to the whales.
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Feb 2021
11:36am, 2 Feb 2021
2,182 posts
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PenW
It’s an interesting balance of different risk levels - I think as has been mentioned by someone before, most people are not very good at judging relative risk.
The guidance isn’t always clear either (especially in England - what is local area?).
The thing I think is key in terms of the NHS is that of the NHS will treat any injuries sustained without judgement regardless of how “ill-judged” risk taken might have been. However, there may come a time in certain areas, if those areas are overrun with covid cases, that there is no capacity to provide that treatment. Hopefully we won’t get there. But the more demand there is on services, the closer we come to that.
I’m making no judgement as to what is low risk or high risk activity for individuals.
I work in an NHS trust that currently is treating covid patients from 300+ miles away due to capacity issues in other areas of the country. We have more patients in ICU right now than we have ever had I believe (due in part to creating more ICU beds to keep up with demand).
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Feb 2021
11:39am, 2 Feb 2021
13,398 posts
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larkim
I'm sure that's true Gus. But the climbers in question needed helivac-ing out of danger, so clearly had mis-read that risk - or were extraordinarily unlucky.
Clearly no-one heads out expecting to get injured; but if the current lockdown isn't about trying to de-risk life in general at the moment, whether that be from covid risks or other risks, then I don't know what it's about.
But if I'm out of step with others, I won't take that personally 
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Feb 2021
11:41am, 2 Feb 2021
13,399 posts
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larkim
(obviously I don't mean completely de-risk, just reduce risk)
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Feb 2021
11:44am, 2 Feb 2021
27,660 posts
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HellsBells
The paddle boarders should not be attempting to get close to the whales from a pure conservation point of view. They should be left undisturbed.
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Feb 2021
11:50am, 2 Feb 2021
9,375 posts
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jda
"if the current lockdown isn't about trying to de-risk life in general at the moment, whether that be from covid risks or other risks, then I don't know what it's about. "
It's really about covid transmission and covid transmission only.
If it was about de-risking life in general then people would be told to shift their mattresses downstairs as a huge number of accidents are related to falling down stairs.
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Feb 2021
12:00pm, 2 Feb 2021
4,340 posts
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K5 Gus
Absolutely we need to reduce risk, which as I said hopefully climbers are doing as well as people in other sports. We don't know the details of the rescue, so impossible to say if they were being stupid or just unlucky. It's like us as runners could scale back our tricky fell/trail runs to run in the local park and trip on an uneven paving stone and break a leg - that won't generate headlines and endless debate on social media, but it could be very similar in the level of risk being undertaken.
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