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Aug 2020
6:38pm, 25 Aug 2020
3,186 posts
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um
They don't mention that you need full rotation of your shoulders and able to fold your arms behind your head without 'pulling' anything 
Take care not to stab or injure yourself trying!
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Aug 2020
7:33pm, 25 Aug 2020
17,541 posts
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Rosehip
lol - probably easier to do at home than out in the hills somewhere. and also impracticable for the bus
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Aug 2020
9:04am, 26 Aug 2020
251 posts
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Snoot
Wondered about those random extra loops on my pack. Certainly don’t think I’ve the flexibility for that method though 🤣
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Aug 2020
9:19am, 26 Aug 2020
15,783 posts
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jennywren
Haha I definitely haven’t. My (folding) poles git into the bladder bit of my decathlon backpack. They poke out a bit but that’s ok.
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Aug 2020
9:53am, 26 Aug 2020
17,556 posts
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Rosehip
Thanks Um
I can make the diagonal work on the smaller vest - putting them in is OK - getting them out/off again not so easy!.
The bigger pack doesn't have the shoulder loop, but I think I can make diagonal work.
Now need to see how it works other than walking up and down stairs !
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Aug 2020
10:18am, 26 Aug 2020
17,557 posts
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Rosehip
Ahha! bingo - the 4D loose strap for my bigger pack was tucked into the bladder pocket. Now I've found that it all makes sense.
and googling Salomon 4D pole system finds me loads of videos - most of which have comments moaning underneath that it does work for folding poles only longer ones
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Aug 2020
10:21am, 26 Aug 2020
6,586 posts
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Fragile Do Not Bend
Glad it’s working out Rosehip.
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Aug 2020
8:52pm, 26 Aug 2020
17,566 posts
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Rosehip
Tricksy things these poles/cheat sticks - half-hoping I don't find any beneft from the so I can just go back to hands on knees for ascents and daisy-descending
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Aug 2020
9:29pm, 26 Aug 2020
17,778 posts
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GimmeMedals
Lol
I don't have use for them in my neck of the woods (far too flat and not rocky enough and no stepping stones over picturesque streams) but I really valued them on holiday.
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Aug 2020
9:41pm, 26 Aug 2020
17,571 posts
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Rosehip
no use on usual routes at home either - hence the deire to try them out on lumpy bits next wk - but the idea of using them doesn't quite sit right - until that is I find they are a miracle!
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