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Ultra training for beginners

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Jul 2019
9:39am, 16 Jul 2019
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chunkywizard
Boing. Just entered Endure24 2020 as a pair and thought I better do some reading up strategies/ training etc. Last year at Endure I ran 9 laps (45 miles) off the back of about 2000 miles a year with no marathon since 2017.

I think I won't be able to wing this as I'd like to do significantly more than 9 laps. So, I have 11 months to train, what should I do?
Jul 2019
10:06am, 16 Jul 2019
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Hills of Death (HOD)
A pair of what Chunky ;-)
Jul 2019
10:16am, 16 Jul 2019
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chunkywizard
my running partner said a pair of nutters...
zp
Jul 2019
10:18am, 16 Jul 2019
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zp
I think it depends where you’re currently at, chunky. A big aerobic base goes a long way; I’d do high volume, low intensity training (but nothing too long) for 6 months, then spend the next 5 months building up a long run, or back to back long-ish runs.

The more terrain specific to Endure, the better. Is it hilly?
Jul 2019
10:21am, 16 Jul 2019
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HappyG(rrr)
Training for a 24 hour ultra? - practice eating!

Seriously, you can only run if you are fuelled. Doesn't matter how strong your running training has been. If you can't eat on the day, you'll grind to a halt.

How do you split the 24 hours between you in a pair? Is it 12 hours and 12 hours? Or an hour on, an hour off (much easier!) That will affect what you train for, surely? More info please! :-) G
Jul 2019
10:34am, 16 Jul 2019
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StuH
Definitely eating! I struggled with food this year and quit after 13 hours. Problem was what had worked for me previously didn't this year.

I think most pairs run two or three laps at a time, alternating laps wouldn't really give you enough time.
Jul 2019
10:40am, 16 Jul 2019
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chunkywizard
Thanks ZP. Pretty good aerobic base at the moment, running about 170 miles/ month. Endure is undulating, only 2 hills to talk about and they aren't too long so could walk them. It's an 8km/5 mile loop and you can hand over to your partner after each lap if you want.

I ran as a team od 4 this year and ran single laps during the light and then double laps at night. Looking at other pairs than have done it, people tend to run double laps during the light (10miles) and triples at night (15 miles, so the other person can get a bit of sleep)

My partner is thinking of running the Bewl Water Ultra in May (37.5miles) as a build up so I'll probably do that. Which means I guess a March/April marathon would be useful as well.

At first glance a realistic target would be 12-15 laps.

That's as far as I have got!
Jul 2019
11:01am, 16 Jul 2019
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oumaumau
Also practise running two or three shifts a day for a bit of specificity - only need to try it out a couple of times, but it gets you used to stopping and starting again. Maybe throw in a midnight run to the mix too :)
Jul 2019
11:41am, 16 Jul 2019
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Derby Tup
Time of feet and re-fueling for starters for sure
Jul 2019
11:50am, 16 Jul 2019
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chunkywizard
How do people advise to build up mileage? Up to a marathon I'm fine (I've used P&D before), but above that I have no clue. Just add 10% a week and keep increasing the long run until you get to a certain point? After marathon distance start a back to back run the day after and start increasing that as well? Is there such thing as an ultra training plan?

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