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Ultra training for beginners

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lin50 Feb 2021 1:32pm, 28 Feb 2021 80 posts	Quote Pin lin50 Has anyone on here done The Silkin Way Ultra?
MovingAlong Mar 2021 6:39pm, 4 Mar 2021 102 posts	Quote Pin MovingAlong Hi all, Just wondering if anyone has any trail shoes recommendations? I've run in Hoka Speedgoats for a number of years, but the latest version (4) are causing me no end of grief and as such think I need to look for something else. I've got a few off-road marathons and ultras booked for the summer - in theory road shoes might be alright but guess I need a back up plan in case it rains for a week beforehand. Comfort is probably top priority. Appreciate this is a very personal and opinionated area, but just looking for experiences of various brands if possible as I go back to the drawing board. Quite taken by INOV8 if anyone has particular experience of them? (if anyone knows of any bargains that would also be great! 😂)
EdJ Mar 2021 6:53pm, 4 Mar 2021 508 posts	Quote Pin EdJ I do pretty much all my running in Inov-8 Roclites (including some big off road ultras). I find they give a good balance between being reasonably grippy on the trails, but okay on the road bits also. Usually get mine from sportsshoes.com - just need to time it right for when they get the not-quite-latest colours. Don't think I've ever paid more than £65 for a pair. I'm on my 8th pair! And they've lasted anything from 850 to 1,800 miles.
JPF Mar 2021 6:59pm, 4 Mar 2021 17 posts	Quote Pin JPF Ironically, I have just moved from Brooks Cascadia to Hoka Speedgoat. I’ve never run in Hokas before & live them. However, my switch wasn’t due to any dissatisfaction with the Cascadias. I’ve had 4 pairs & they are great for training & racing on the trails. I just fancied a change
MovingAlong Mar 2021 7:07pm, 4 Mar 2021 103 posts	Quote Pin MovingAlong Thanks. For inov8 - sizing same with your other shoes? For speedgoats, absolutely loved and did many happy miles in Vn 2. Got Vn 4 before Christmas and putting them on, just didn't feel right. Everytime I've worn them I've had calf and arch pain within a mile that never goes. Sad, as I say, loved Vn 2.
NDWDave Mar 2021 7:12pm, 4 Mar 2021 14,230 posts	Quote Pin NDWDave Have a look to see if your road shoes have a trail version. I used the Mizuno trail shoes quite successfully. Knew they would fit well I used inov8 for heavy mud and lumpy trails. They are a similar size (I usually buy a size up from regular shoes)
EdJ Mar 2021 7:21pm, 4 Mar 2021 509 posts	Quote Pin EdJ I take half a size larger in Inov-8 than normal shoes (9.5 vs 9)
Derby Tup Mar 2021 7:30pm, 4 Mar 2021 49,217 posts	Quote Pin Derby Tup 10.5 for me in Inov-8 (and Walsh) but 10 in non-running shoes
K5 Gus Mar 2021 7:36pm, 4 Mar 2021 4,404 posts	Quote Pin K5 Gus I use half a size smaller in Inov8 than I do in Hoka, but I know others that use same size. They seem to have re-stocked on the EVO Speedgoat, which is the slightly lighter version ( different upper, midsole & outsole the same ). It was based on v2 I think. The downside is it's more expensive. If it's more a road/trail hybrid you're looking for then I've had great service from Hoka Challenger ATRs ( had v1, v2, v4 and now on v5 ). Definitely more room in the toebox than the Speedgoat, and they're great on roads, I do my marathon training long road runs using them
MovingAlong Mar 2021 7:58pm, 4 Mar 2021 104 posts	Quote Pin MovingAlong Thanks all. Run in Hoka Cliftons for road shoes. Gus - atrs jumped to mind as something to try. Think I'll keep an eye out for the atrs or inov8 and plump for one when the price is right. No rush - either that or I'll be the one slipping and sliding everywhere in June in road shoes!