Transgender exercise - Lets Fetch Everyone

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May 2020
10:16am, 17 May 2020
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swittle
I saw this article on the BBC News site. It brings together the fear and uncertainty facing transgender people during the pandemic. To be honest, I need to know more about both topics to feel confident to comment further.

bbc.co.uk
May 2020
12:00pm, 17 May 2020
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Vixx
A GRC (and getting one) was something I meant to blog about, and never got around to.

It's an expensive process, even more so now, and you have to provide evidence of at least 2 years living in your gender. There's category A - which are things like official documentation: deed poll, passport, driving license (passport and driving license cost money). Category B - bank and credit card statements, bills. Category C - letters from people, birthday cards and other odds and bobs that show your name and often address. You also need letters from medical personnel stating that this is a permanent life change (they cost about £50 per letter)

You also have to go through a Government document and get bits signed, such as a statutory declaration, which you need to either go to Magistrates court or get a solicitor or legal advocate (and that costs money too). Going to get my stat dec was a complete farce, resulting in a complaint to the court - privacy violated so many times in just a couple of hours!

Then, when you have all of this information and evidence, you have to put it in front of a panel of people, who probably have never met you, don't know you or your life, and have to make a decision whether to give you that piece of paper that will protect you lawfully and legally until the day you die - and many people do get rejected. I think just the application is now £140, which I don't think you get back if unsuccessful.

I got mine purposely to protect me lawfully, and because I wanted to get married as male. Many people can't afford the costs, and many feel that we shouldn't have gatekeepers who don't know how being Trans affects your life (I am not certain who is on the GRC panel these days but when I got mine it was all doctors, none of whom were trans, but worked at some of the gender clinics).
May 2020
1:19pm, 17 May 2020
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DocM
thanks swittle and vixx. That's a whole other complication to life that i hadn't even begun to think about
May 2020
1:55pm, 17 May 2020
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ThorntonRunner
Son 2 has all the forms but hasn't spoken about it for a while - I think he's daunted by the process. With respect to the BBC article, at least our son knows we would fight tooth and nail to respect his wishes
May 2020
2:10pm, 17 May 2020
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LindsD
That is tough :(
May 2020
2:12pm, 17 May 2020
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swittle
ThorntonR, I don't doubt that for one second.
May 2020
2:37pm, 17 May 2020
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Lizzle
Thanks so much for this thread. Really informative. I can’t contribute but wanted to send positive, supportive vibes.
May 2020
2:42pm, 17 May 2020
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swittle
Welcome to Fetch, Lizzle. So much more than just a sports site! :)
May 2020
2:45pm, 17 May 2020
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Lizzle
Thanks, Swittle! Seems to be such a great community.
May 2020
3:07pm, 17 May 2020
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JJ Flash
I transitioned over 10 years ago, whilst a fairly active Fetchie. I found this place and the people in it to be very supportive. Don't run much at present so not visiting much, but if my experience can be of any help to anyone please Fmail me.

I'm a much happier and better liked person these days.

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A thread about how we can encourage and include people in whatever exercise they are interested in and removing barriers to participation.

Glossary
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This is NOT comprehensive, just some helpful shorthand.
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Gender Identity ≠ Gender Expression ≠ Anatomical Sex ≠ Sexual Orientation

Anatomical sex = The physical aspects that make you fit into a category based on genitals, chromosomes etc i.e. Intersex, Female, Male...
Gender identity = The internal view of gender, the way you see yourself.
Gender expression = The way you present to others externally through clothing, behaviours, language and other social signals.

Sexual orientation = Who you are attracted to.

None of the above are dependent on any of the others, individuals may relate one to another in their specific case, but assuming what one might be based on observation of another is not a sound basis for determination.

Transgender (Trans) = When your gender identity does not match your identity assigned at birth based on anatomical sex.
Cisgender (Cis) = When your gender identity matches your identity assigned at birth based on anatomical sex.
Non Binary (Enby) = When your gender identity doesn't fall into either of the female/male choice. It may exist somewhere on the spectrum between woman and man, either stable of fluctuating between woman-ness and man-ness. This may encapsulate those that may use terms such as genderfluid, agender, demigender et al.

Pronouns = she/her, him/his, them/they etc...
How to refer best to someone else. Really simply, follow their lead. Ask if unsure, be polite. If corrected, it's not a problem unless you repeatedly ignore correction.

Transition = The process somebody goes through to alter their physical attributes to better match their gender identity and expression.

Dysphoria = The distress a person feels due to a mismatch between their gender identity and their sex assigned at birth. Can fluctuate and be experienced at varying degrees.
Dysmorphia = Discomfort with the shape/form of the body. Present in eating disorders and the like, but can often effect transgender people, with triggers such as body hair presence/absence, chest/genital presentation etc.
Deadname - The name a person is assigned at birth, that they no longer use.

Triggers = Things that are known to cause an effect. Typically, X causes a person to experience dysphoria/dysmorphia. Sometimes these can be managed/avoided, other times they are inevitable.

Acronyms:
amab = assigned male at birth (originally born anatomically male)

afab = assigned female at birth (originally born anatomically female)

ftm = female to male transitioner
mtf = male to female transitioner
egg = state of somebody before becoming aware they were transgender i.e. "their egg cracked when they realised and began to emerge"
GIC/GIS = Gender Identity Clinic/Service, providing transition services
GRS = Gender Reassignment Surgery

General notes:
* Not everyone will be comfortable talking about their situation, depending on where they are.
* Not everyone has the language to articulate how they feel, what they want to say. Be patient.
* These things are NOT static, what you encounter in a person today may evolve into something else later.
* Am I trans/cis/enby etc... Frankly, you tell us. Whatever YOU are comfortable with at the time is what we will adopt. It is YOUR identity.
* This language is weird. Yup, and we (CreatureOfTheHill) as a plural system talk strange too, it's OK. We (CreatureOfTheHill) are not "normal", never have been.
* Am I weird/abnormal? Possibly, but it has NOTHING to do with being here or being trans/enby or whatever. People just are in general, and that is OK, we love you for your quirkiness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFL5GTKwonQ


Resources:
Genderbread Person genderbread.org

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