Transgender exercise - Lets Fetch Everyone

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Apr 2023
3:25pm, 8 Apr 2023
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fetcheveryone
Before this goes any further, can I direct any trans discussion posts to here:

fetcheveryone.com/forum/transgender-athletes-60992/

and recommend that this thread stays focused on supporting trans people and those connected to them.
Apr 2023
3:30pm, 8 Apr 2023
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Raemond
Links to that thread should always come with a health warning for anyone who gets enraged by unchecked (and seemingly uncheckable) transphobia.
Apr 2023
3:31pm, 8 Apr 2023
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LindsD
I'm sorry your Saturday was disturbed fetcheveryone
Apr 2023
4:03pm, 8 Apr 2023
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Vixx
We can't even have a thread for supporting Trans athletes. This is getting ridiculous.

Whether we can compete in sport or not, Trans people still need to be able to exercise and be active. We have that right just the same as everybody else to be able to run, cycle, kick a ball around. We also need our mental health to be helped and supported by the endorphins of physical activity.

So if you want to point score - go to the other thread. You'll only be in an echo chamber anyway.

And - as I have said before in other places, it's alright for people to kick us when we are down (hope those people feel good about that, by the way), but who is proposing any solution?

As ever, (I am going to capitalise on this if I may), I have a small Community Interest Company to help Trans people be active, and should anyone feel generous, whether it's money, or donation of kit/equipment, then please feel free to message me.

Thanks you as ever, to the allies in here. I appreciate you all.
Apr 2023
4:16pm, 8 Apr 2023
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Raemond
Ooo, the CIC sounds fab, Vixx, will f-mail you!
Apr 2023
4:20pm, 8 Apr 2023
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Vixx
Thanks Raemond :)
Apr 2023
4:57pm, 8 Apr 2023
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Charlesvdw
Raemond, there is conclusive peer-reviewed evidence that the male advantage is retained.
Link in the other thread.
Apr 2023
5:08pm, 8 Apr 2023
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Raemond
'Conclusive' and 'supports my preformed belief and agenda' are not, scientifically speaking, the same thing.
Apr 2023
5:42pm, 8 Apr 2023
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CreatureOfTheHill
And this was why we decided to leave, conclusively proven by trolling on a support thread and weak moderation that means nothing.
Apparently, we have to WAIT until our account is deactivated.
This is not a safe space for trans people, when we have to have people come in to a trans thread to start arguments, and the response is "please don't do that".

Looks like we are going to manually delete our profile data etc. Then wait 7 days to see if it is actually done.
Stupidly hadn't closed a tab on the PC, so saw the immediate response to our post 🤦‍♀️
Apr 2023
5:56pm, 8 Apr 2023
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Raemond
COTH, there are more than you might think who love and value you here, and I hope it speak for many of us when I say that we will always support you doing what you need to do to protect your health and well-being, including stepping away from this place.

I'm sorry that it's not a safe space for you, and others who have surely peeked in and left again because they didn't want to put themselves at risk. I hope we will make it safer in the future.
Go well, you wonderful creature collective 🫂 (but only if its consensual)

About This Thread

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A thread about how we can encourage and include people in whatever exercise they are interested in and removing barriers to participation.

Glossary
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Amendments/Corrections/Requests just ask for a sidebar edit.
This is NOT comprehensive, just some helpful shorthand.
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Gender Identity ≠ Gender Expression ≠ Anatomical Sex ≠ Sexual Orientation

Anatomical sex = The physical aspects that make you fit into a category based on genitals, chromosomes etc i.e. Intersex, Female, Male...
Gender identity = The internal view of gender, the way you see yourself.
Gender expression = The way you present to others externally through clothing, behaviours, language and other social signals.

Sexual orientation = Who you are attracted to.

None of the above are dependent on any of the others, individuals may relate one to another in their specific case, but assuming what one might be based on observation of another is not a sound basis for determination.

Transgender (Trans) = When your gender identity does not match your identity assigned at birth based on anatomical sex.
Cisgender (Cis) = When your gender identity matches your identity assigned at birth based on anatomical sex.
Non Binary (Enby) = When your gender identity doesn't fall into either of the female/male choice. It may exist somewhere on the spectrum between woman and man, either stable of fluctuating between woman-ness and man-ness. This may encapsulate those that may use terms such as genderfluid, agender, demigender et al.

Pronouns = she/her, him/his, them/they etc...
How to refer best to someone else. Really simply, follow their lead. Ask if unsure, be polite. If corrected, it's not a problem unless you repeatedly ignore correction.

Transition = The process somebody goes through to alter their physical attributes to better match their gender identity and expression.

Dysphoria = The distress a person feels due to a mismatch between their gender identity and their sex assigned at birth. Can fluctuate and be experienced at varying degrees.
Dysmorphia = Discomfort with the shape/form of the body. Present in eating disorders and the like, but can often effect transgender people, with triggers such as body hair presence/absence, chest/genital presentation etc.
Deadname - The name a person is assigned at birth, that they no longer use.

Triggers = Things that are known to cause an effect. Typically, X causes a person to experience dysphoria/dysmorphia. Sometimes these can be managed/avoided, other times they are inevitable.

Acronyms:
amab = assigned male at birth (originally born anatomically male)

afab = assigned female at birth (originally born anatomically female)

ftm = female to male transitioner
mtf = male to female transitioner
egg = state of somebody before becoming aware they were transgender i.e. "their egg cracked when they realised and began to emerge"
GIC/GIS = Gender Identity Clinic/Service, providing transition services
GRS = Gender Reassignment Surgery

General notes:
* Not everyone will be comfortable talking about their situation, depending on where they are.
* Not everyone has the language to articulate how they feel, what they want to say. Be patient.
* These things are NOT static, what you encounter in a person today may evolve into something else later.
* Am I trans/cis/enby etc... Frankly, you tell us. Whatever YOU are comfortable with at the time is what we will adopt. It is YOUR identity.
* This language is weird. Yup, and we (CreatureOfTheHill) as a plural system talk strange too, it's OK. We (CreatureOfTheHill) are not "normal", never have been.
* Am I weird/abnormal? Possibly, but it has NOTHING to do with being here or being trans/enby or whatever. People just are in general, and that is OK, we love you for your quirkiness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFL5GTKwonQ


Resources:
Genderbread Person genderbread.org

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