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Oct 2020
11:22am, 7 Oct 2020
11,811 posts
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geordiegirl
Is that suggesting the numbers are declining?
It is a bit like the cruise ships, lots of people in confined spaces it’s going to go through rapidly. It’s the transference to the outside community that is a worry. Coming through Durham on Sunday there was big crowds of students I get they may be in a bubble but to other non students it looked like it was all ok to gather.
A friend overheard a lad taking to his mates the other day saying they’d go to Durham For a few pints as they are not challenging anyone and if they do just say you’re a student. 😩
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Oct 2020
11:26am, 7 Oct 2020
37,390 posts
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DocM
son at York uni. all lectures and practicals now on line, but today is freshers fair
As you see, all socially distanced, masked and no chairs. Also no freshers as they have stayed away. Its a bit lacking in atmosphere!
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Oct 2020
11:28am, 7 Oct 2020
28,428 posts
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Wriggling Snake
I think it is a facet of testing, i.e. when it became apparent it was in halls, and homes, people got tested, so the numbers shot up..also some 4,000 are now self isolating that is 10% of the student population...that could be a factor in the dip. However I think the numbers will fluctuate up and down between now and say Feb......that's how season flu works across the autumn/winter seasons.
I have no idea in general what the students get up to (ok I do  ), but I do know my runners are having virtual beers tonight via zoom, good on them.
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Oct 2020
11:46am, 7 Oct 2020
11,812 posts
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geordiegirl
I feel for the students still trying to have some normality it’s so hard. I’m having a struggling day today.
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Oct 2020
12:11pm, 7 Oct 2020
19,148 posts
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EvilPixie
Just seen this BBC
People "who are at minimal risk of death" to Covid-19 should be allowed to return to normal life, an international group of infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists has said.
Nearly 6,000 scientists and health experts, including dozens from the UK, have joined a movement - known as the Great Barrington Declaration - warning of "grave concerns" around lockdown policies.
They say young and low-risk individuals should be allowed to work normally, and schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching.
They call for efforts to "to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk".
Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health, the declaration warns.
"Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage."
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Oct 2020
12:22pm, 7 Oct 2020
17,800 posts
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Bazoaxe
While there is a lot of sense in that, it would also require those low risk people to avoid contact with anyone else otherwise the virus will spread further - such as the larkim example
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Oct 2020
12:34pm, 7 Oct 2020
28,429 posts
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Wriggling Snake
ah ha! Herd immunity, fine except lots of people will die....because not everyone know or understands their risks and situations, and because some people will knowing break whatever rules you put in place.
To be fair to the government, we're now in a very difficult position (partly of their making), whichever route they take or suggest, something quite bad is going to happen, either economically or with the populations health.
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Oct 2020
12:56pm, 7 Oct 2020
11,813 posts
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geordiegirl
Yeah I can see the reason for it and it would be sensible and allow life and economy to go on but we know that people are not adhering to restrictions now and there will be too many who think its fine we will carry on 'I'm alright Jack' there is too many people who know they are positive & still mixing in the community.
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Oct 2020
1:21pm, 7 Oct 2020
3,517 posts
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Little Miss Happy
and of course it doesn't take into account all the staff that would be at risk in schools and universities.................
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Oct 2020
1:25pm, 7 Oct 2020
11,814 posts
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geordiegirl
Or family members, particularly grandparents looking after children. A friends dad was shielding during beginning. She’s returned to work after maternity leave and grandparents are taking on child minding. She is very low risk both her and husband WFT but there will be some at risk people also taking on child care. It’s all a worry.
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