Jun 2024
11:24am, 27 Jun 2024
5,364 posts
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J2R
jdawayinamanger wrote: The tories have thoroughly exploded their reputation for competence and fiscal responsibility. It’s hard to see what they have left as a USP, given that there is an alternative far right wingnut party. The thing is, there's a huge constituency of traditional Tory voters who would not vote for the alternative far right wingnut party. They're broadly small 'c' conservative, don't like change, are fearful of the dreaded socialism, and have always voted Tory, sticking with them out of tribal loyalty even as the Tory Party has changed completely in recent years. They're not going to jump ship to Reform. And Starmer is trying to win them over to the Labour fold, trying to create the notion of a new broad church national party of government - but it would have to be a very broad church to encompass both these conservatives and younger progressives. No, I think the Tory Party will live on, as a pale shadow of their former selves, and will hope to slowly claw back voters on the Right. There will, however, be a period of internecine warfare first, which I have booked my ringside seat for and am very much looking forward to. |
Jun 2024
11:26am, 27 Jun 2024
17,356 posts
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jda
Well there have always been those who won't vote labour because they are threatening to shut the food banks.... But yeah under-18s are ignorant and shouldn't have a say in decisions that they will have to suffer for the rest of their lives. |
Jun 2024
11:32am, 27 Jun 2024
3,610 posts
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Big_G
Just received this Lib Dem leaflet, which is basically a ‘stop the Tories’ leaflet. |
Jun 2024
11:53am, 27 Jun 2024
22,523 posts
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rf_fozzy
This is a really smart piece. thecritic.co.uk I believe the author, Tom, is a former Labour advisor or something similar. |
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Jun 2024
11:59am, 27 Jun 2024
22,524 posts
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rf_fozzy
This is also a useful Twix Thread. And goes into the heart of my issue with the "predict the number of Tory Seats" controversy. nitter.poast.org |
Jun 2024
12:00pm, 27 Jun 2024
21,721 posts
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Chrisull
The Tories won't die if they get wiped out. As seen in Canada, it might take a while to recover, but recover they always do: politicshome.com |
Jun 2024
12:02pm, 27 Jun 2024
5,479 posts
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paulcook
The bookies best friend Philip Davies seems to have bet £8k on himself to lose. He doesn’t seem to be disputing the allegations. But compare the complete lack of action taken by Sunak as to Starmer against Kevin Craig. |
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Jun 2024
12:16pm, 27 Jun 2024
5,481 posts
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paulcook
richmac wrote: I'm now paranoid that the honey trap guy is going to ruin it in the last week Did any RWP lead on this or report on it this morning? I haven’t noticed anything obvious but that’s more by accident than actively looking. |
Jun 2024
12:25pm, 27 Jun 2024
21,297 posts
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Cerrertonia
paulcook wrote: Only the Times had it on the front page, and it wasn't their main story.
richmac wrote:I'm now paranoid that the honey trap guy is going to ruin it in the last week Did any RWP lead on this or report on it this morning? I haven’t noticed anything obvious but that’s more by accident than actively looking. |
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Jun 2024
1:13pm, 27 Jun 2024
17,357 posts
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jda
I heard a bit of the newsagents podcast in which they were saying that betting against yourself is a bit of a tradition that many have indulged in over the years in various types of elections. Maitlis used the term "hedge" if I heard correctly. |
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