Polarized training

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Gobi


I used to call myself a lazy runner

I still am
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Bowman 🇸🇪
Maybe I had a hunch, 😂
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Bowman 🇸🇪
But still, I’m not sure where I would set my threshold.
Maybe it’s not that important really.
Let the easy run be easy, and hard runs hard.

But today for instance, I tried to do an easy run, and it was easy, average 140bpm which for me should be 72-73% of MHR. Polarized enough?

And the usual question, do you never let it go over or under to much?
I live where it’s hilly and I kinda have to elevate the HR in the hills or I will never get home :)

I know I can google a bit, but I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
SPR
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SPR
Well this was the five zone model years ago. Not sure whether it's changed.



I think most easy was in Z1 in that model. From the vimeo 2013 video so plenty of scope for things to have moved on.
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SPR
The 2020 youtube video updates things.

This is a shorter video with zone details.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPwyk9B0j-s
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Bowman 🇸🇪
Thanks mate, will check it out.
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SPR
Note the video says HR peak so you shouldn't go over based on that. In the 2013 video he discussed athletes walking to keep HR down.
SPR
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SPR
My memory was correct as well, mostly Z1 for the easy stuff: fasttalklabs.com

More screenshots from the 2013 talk here: google.com
SPR
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SPR
If you click on the video image you'll get a few related images.
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Bowman 🇸🇪
Thanks SPR, I’ll look at it all!

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Maintained by Canute
Polarised training is a form of training that places emphasis on the two extremes of intensity. There is a large amount of low intensity training (comfortably below lactate threshold) and an appreciable minority of high intensity training (above LT).

Polarised training does also include some training near lactate threshold, but the amount of threshold training is modest, in contrast to the relatively high proportion of threshold running that is popular among some recreational runners.

Polarised training is not new. It has been used for many years by many elites and some recreational runners. However, it has attracted great interest in recent years for two reasons.

First, detailed reviews of the training of many elite endurance athletes confirms that they employ a polarised approach (typically 80% low intensity, 10% threshold and 10% high intensity. )

Secondly, several scientific studies have demonstrated that for well trained athletes who have reached a plateau of performance, polarised training produces greater gains in fitness and performance, than other forms of training such as threshold training on the one hand, or high volume, low intensity training on the other.

Much of the this evidence was reviewed by Stephen Seiler in a lecture delivered in Paris in 2013 .
vimeo.com

In case you cannot access that lecture by Seiler in 2013, here is a link to his more recent TED talk.

ted.com
This has less technical detail than his 2013 talk, but is nonetheless a very good introduction to the topic. It should be noted that from the historical perspective, Seiler shows a US bias.

Here is another useful video by Stephen Seiler in which he discusses the question of the optimum intensity and duration of low intensity sessions. Although the answer ‘depends on circumstances’ he proposes that a low intensity session should be long enough to reach the point where there are detectable indications of rising stress (either the beginning of upwards drift of HR or increased in perceived effort). If longer than this, there is increasing risk of damaging effects. A session shorter than this might not be enough to produce enough stress to achieve a useful training effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXc474Hu5U


The coach who probably deserves the greatest credit for emphasis on the value of low intensity training was Arthur Lydiard, who coached some of the great New Zealanders in the 1960's and Scandinavians in the 1970’s. One of his catch-phrases was 'train, don't strain'. However Lydiard never made it really clear what he meant by ‘quarter effort’. I have discussed Lydiard’s ideas on several occasions on my Wordpress blog. For example: canute1.wordpress.com

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