The War in Ukraine

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May 2023
5:26pm, 22 May 2023
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richmac
Partisans?

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May 2023
9:39am, 23 May 2023
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Muttley
Murky happenings indeed. That aside, it's generated a lot of very funny trolling. Eg, reviews of the border checkpoint:

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And this reworking of Zelensky's "we're all here" address:

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Classic! :-)
May 2023
12:28pm, 23 May 2023
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richmac
Wonder if certain Putin fanboys/apologists will be talking about a negotiated peace between Russia and this militia?
May 2023
1:27pm, 23 May 2023
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Muttley
Worth pointing out that some of the guys involved in this incursion are yer proper Nazis, admirers of Breivik and the Christchurch shooter and so forth. At least, according to Bellingcat, who are pretty reliable on such matters. Perhaps not the kind of people you want in your corner, even if they are causing the Russians a headache.
May 2023
1:50pm, 23 May 2023
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richmac
Yuk nasty.
May 2023
4:53am, 24 May 2023
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154 Rob
So, Russians have taken Bakhmut.

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It was home to 70, 000 people, now it's rubble.

en.wikipedia.org

When the Romans invaded Caledonia (🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿) a native chief allegedly said "they've created a wilderness and call it peace"
May 2023
3:08pm, 24 May 2023
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Fields
If I had Nazis on my side I would question if I was on the right side personally.

Anyway, on the subject of despotic regimes who shot down civilian airliners for no reason, the US has shown its disapproval at the incursion.

I can see the US in the next year taking measures from strongly encouraging a ceasefire and peace settlement to shutting off funding and supply of weapons next year as the presidential election draws close. Of course if Trump wins then it’s game over.

Whatever happens thousands of innocent working class people will die while two egomaniac leaders refuse to discuss the prospect of peace.
May 2023
3:46pm, 24 May 2023
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HappyG(rrr)
Who are the "two egomaniac leaders" Fields? Putin presumably and do you mean Zelensky. What actions has he taken that you would class as egomaniacal? He has seemed entirely reasonable and even moderate in his aims and language.

Get out of our country, stop killing our people, stop attacking us.

Doesn't sound too egomaniacal to me?

And I haven't seen any examples (only skim read tbh) of glorifying in deaths on this thread.
jda
May 2023
3:50pm, 24 May 2023
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jda
When you're on the wrong side the only argument is "both sides".
May 2023
4:41pm, 24 May 2023
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Fields
He’s determined to make it a whole continent if not a world war, and is pushing for yet more aggressive steps to be taken which risk very serious escalation.

Still if you want to live with NATO tanks aimed at Russian tanks, and nuclear missiles aimed at western cities then that’s what you will get. The west taking a cavalier approach to wars and military action in the Middle East and Central Asia while expanding NATO eastward showed Putin that if they could do it, so could he. If he is a madman, then so was Bush jr, Clinton, Obama, Trump, Biden etc - all the weddings they dronestruck.

I want peace, as any sane person would surely. I am not on any side. All the middle aged men getting semis over tanks and missile defences and cheerleading the Ukrainians should take a good look in the mirror and be ashamed that they’re supporting bloodshed and death. Meanwhile US corporations are lending to Ukraine at 46% interest and are licking their lips awaiting the reconstruction contracts

About This Thread

Maintained by Northern Exile
Please feel free to post anything of consequence, links to reports, analysis, ways in which we can support the people of Ukraine. Not a forum for bashing the UK government, the politics thread is a good place for that.

Royal United Services Institute - rusi.org
Bellingcat - bellingcat.com
Human Rights Watch - hrw.org
Reuters - reuters.com
BBC Russian Service - bbc.com
Ria Novosti - ria.ru
Russian Online TV - ontvtime.ru
Russian TV News - tv-novosti.ru
UK Government Response - gov.uk
UK MOD Twitter Feed - twitter.com
ABC News - abcnews.go.com
Wion Russia - Ukraine - wionews.com

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