The vaporfly thread

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jda
Jan 2022
12:54pm, 6 Jan 2022
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jda
I wasn't really intending to use super-shoes shoes for training, it was just I got the gyakusou next% cheap and already had an unused pair each of VF and AF for racing, so I thought I might as well use the gyakusou a few times for timed intervals. The gyakusou look ugly and are a bit unnecessarily heavy (extra upper fabric) but still seem to generate very quick times. Possibly better than the original VF for me (based on a single threshold session and 10k race with each pair), but I'm not sure about that.
Jan 2022
3:02pm, 6 Jan 2022
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Gobi
FuzzyD - I train in old 4%s and will also at points use alphas. Because the landing feels different I need a level of time in shoe
SPR
Jan 2022
10:53am, 8 Jan 2022
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SPR
Change from Takumi Sen 7 to 8 is wild!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F1Kb0N-p8g
jda
Jan 2022
2:32pm, 13 Jan 2022
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jda
Following a difficult session last week I felt like I needed a confidence boost so was back in the Gyakusou Next% shoes....went very fast indeed considering I'm a bit sore still after my first 20-miler on Sunday. Average 3:49 pace for 4 x 10mins (2 min rest), that's 38:10 min pace for a 10k. Looking back at this week in previous plans I've never done it better than 3:52 pace, though I did once do the same workout faster 5 weeks further on in the training block (that was in original VF).
Jan 2022
4:39pm, 13 Jan 2022
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Tizer
Nice work jda, sounds like a good confidence boost, especially so early in the plan
J2R
Jan 2022
6:23pm, 13 Jan 2022
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J2R
Sounds like a merciless workout, jda. I do something similar, but 8 minutes per rep instead of 10 minutes, and that's bad enough.
Jan 2022
6:26pm, 13 Jan 2022
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Gobi
Nice JDA - I get back on the track on Monday. I expect misery and to be dropped.
Jan 2022
9:34pm, 14 Jan 2022
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Chris
I’ve had 4% and next% vapours and probably prefer the lower stack of the 4% but ive just gotten a pair of tempo next% which I prefer for shorter stuff.

Over a 10K is there likely to be much different between the tempo next% and alphaflys?
SPR
Jan 2022
10:19pm, 14 Jan 2022
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SPR
I'd have thought there would be loads. The tempo isn't even a race shoe IIRC.
Jan 2022
5:24pm, 15 Jan 2022
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Hills of Death (HOD)
I find I run well in them all but best in the AF

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