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Oct 2017
8:59pm, 9 Oct 2017
11,961 posts
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Bazoaxe
FR - He has a 2:41 PB, but amazingly hasnt run a marathon since what looks like pacing Chester last year and only has one raced half this year and also paced Chester half in 90 earlier in the year.
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Oct 2017
9:00pm, 9 Oct 2017
13,723 posts
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Fenland (Fenners) Runner
Even more wow!
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Oct 2017
9:01pm, 9 Oct 2017
25,061 posts
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SPR
I'm guessing he does a load of mileage though and has been racing well at shorter distances?
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Oct 2017
9:03pm, 9 Oct 2017
13,724 posts
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Fenland (Fenners) Runner
SPR, IMHO racing shorter distances means nothing compared to running a controlled marathon.
It's been said before but running fast over shorter distances rarely translates to 'fast' marathons. BUT training for a marathon (or Ultra) often results in blindingly fast shorter distance times.
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Oct 2017
9:38pm, 9 Oct 2017
25,063 posts
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SPR
For the best runners it does translate and a 2:41 runner is pretty good. The point is they do loads of mileage whether they are targeting short or long distance. In many cases, the mileage they do for 5kms is more than some do for marathons.
I would rephrase you last paragraph, to it has been said before that targeting a marathon may force many runners to improve their training.
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Oct 2017
9:49pm, 9 Oct 2017
27,621 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
I'm not being funny but pacing 20 mins outside your PB is pretty doable, I'd say. I think any of us in the low 3.1x consistently would confidently be able to pace 3.30. I'd still train hard and prepare etc as professionally as poss. Same as I could pace a 22 min 5k. Or am I being arrogant?
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Oct 2017
9:59pm, 9 Oct 2017
1,161 posts
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Uyuni
I think that you would need to have run a fair few marathons to be confident of pacing 20 mins below your PB - which I guess is covered by you saying "consistently". I'd be blooming terrified at the prospect! Give a job doing 20 mins at parkrun any day 
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Oct 2017
10:00pm, 9 Oct 2017
11,962 posts
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Bazoaxe
That's a good point happyg. if I had another 25 seconds per mile yesterday I could have paced a 3:15 and sure you could have as well. However guess what we don't know is the added pressure and how you deal with that. Carrying the badminton racket. Keeping even pace when you can go faster. Making sure people get and share drinks. Watching for all the obstacles and warning people. Encouraging all around you. Even helping your fellow pacer who is struggling. Then getting the stragglers over the line just inside the cut off.
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Oct 2017
11:53pm, 9 Oct 2017
First-time poster!!
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pete86
Hi all, mind if I join in?
I've just signed up to Fetch after running the Chester marathon yesterday. Firstly just to say how so sad it was too find out a runner had passed away in the metric marathon. Thoughts and prayers for his family for such a tragic loss.
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Oct 2017
11:59pm, 9 Oct 2017
2 posts
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pete86
I came in at 3:01:26 after following the pacers (then pacer when one of them dropped back at around 18 miles) up to 21 miles or so. He then just started to slowly inch away. Still, it was better than my only previous marathon, also at Chester, 5 years ago when I got cramp at 22 miles and walked/jogged to a 3:42 finish.
It felt like a good strategy to run with the pacers in the shelter of a group (reading the previous posts Baz you must have been there too!) but i need to have a rethink on how to get through those hills at the end.
It's a great event and not far away (I live on the Wirral) so I've signed up for another go next year on the early bird price! I'm sure there will be some good advice going round here to find those 87 seconds!
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