The Environment Thread :-)
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Jun 2022
10:40am, 3 Jun 2022
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rf_fozzy
I think that's the point v'rap
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Jun 2022
11:11am, 3 Jun 2022
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JRitchie
some factoids about Jackdaw. It’s a valid question Fozzy. 1. With between 120m and 250m of barrels of oil equivalent Jackdaw not huge. Doesn’t even come near Europe’s top 10 - all of which, including the big Norwegian fields, are still going of course and will be used to replace Russian gas. 2. Jackdaw development started over 4 years ago. This isn’t agreeing to kick off something new- it’s a step in a long process. It also ties back to existing infrastructure. (Make use of what you have for longer). 3. Uk is not alone. The Netherlands are reopening gas extraction at Groningham (much bigger than Jackdaw). They have the same issues. 4. Uk O&G production is in natural decline. Jackdaw does not change the outlook of this reduction. 5. I heard Andy Bernham this morning talking about his objection to Manchester clean emissions zone because of the current cost of living crisis. I see parallels to Jackdaw. Personally I want to focus not on the production of gas but in reducing the demand for gas through accelerating renewables not banning new gas. This field will now also now be contributing a higher 65% tax take to UK economy. I’d be delighted if Jackdaw did not go ahead because it’s uneconomic and a genuine reflection that renewables were increasing. When the sale of new ICE cars comes into effect should we also ban petrol stations or let them see it makes economic sense to replace with electric super fast charge points? |
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Jun 2022
11:16am, 3 Jun 2022
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JRitchie
Sorry I meant to write HG not Fozzy. I’m getting old..,
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Jun 2022
11:38am, 3 Jun 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
Good points all JR. I guess I just see it as a more urgent problem than allowing "natural" market forces such as no longer being economically viable (which in itself is not actually a free market because there are so many vested interests and sunk capital in O n G already). So I think government intervention is necessary and justified. You say "should we ban petrol stations?". No, of course not. But we are already banning sale of new cars that would use them from 2030, just 8 short years. So government is intervening. The two main things should be: 1. reducing consumption (reducing ICE car use, incentivising electric, incentivising public transport, increasing taxation on fossil fuels, esp aviation; and insulating homes, incentivising home renewable generation, incentivising switch away from oil and gas boilers etc.) 2. increasing green electricity generation (more wind, offshore wind, solar, tidal etc.) and the infrastructure to support transmission (networks, smart distribution, storage, smart metering etc.) It really doesn't feel that complicated. It needs massive, co-ordinated government activity. We're just not doing big enough or fast enough. Ironically, the crisis with high O & G prices helps to incentivise both reduced consumption and increased moves to electricity. Unfortunately, it does it by hurting the poorest home owners, businesses (which hurts lowest paid and lowest skilled employees and poorest families again). Those who are able to profit from it are those who trade in oil and gas, who sell it, and whose investments are buoyed up by it. Not the poor living on the edge of their budgets. |
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Jun 2022
11:39am, 3 Jun 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
*home owners was redundant there - I mean home dwellers, so everyone!
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Jun 2022
7:16pm, 3 Jun 2022
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Chrisull
But it's not like we're facing total societal/civilizational collapse due to climate change or anything, that even mainstream sit on the fences like the UN are acknowledging.... oh wait: bylinetimes.com |
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Jun 2022
11:15am, 5 Jun 2022
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rf_fozzy
BBC News - Drought-stricken US warned of looming 'dead pool' bbc.co.uk |
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Jun 2022
12:29pm, 5 Jun 2022
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Hanneke
I have just been looking at adding this to my food forrest: Another 2000 litres of water for watering the food forest. This area used to be so wet, I had to put measures in place to dry it out enough to grow food and medicine. Now it is so dry, I am having to water 😱😱😱 All my rain water collection is 100 + metres away on my buildings, so I am thinking: 2 metres diameter, 85 cms high, 2000 litres = 2 IBTs. I reckon that will fill over winter... I currently store nearly 4000 litres and keep running out. However: last night's epic rainfall: 2 inches in an empty, as of yet to be connected, trough and all other containers full to overflowing!!! Thing is, it will be dry again in no time... Ordering tomorrow... It can double up as a paddling pool for humans, if it ever gets warm this summer... |
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Jun 2022
12:30pm, 5 Jun 2022
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Hanneke
Best go clear some brambles to make room...
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Jun 2022
10:43am, 6 Jun 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
US leading the messages on fossil fuel reduction commitments bbc.co.uk Who'd have thought? It does feel like the war in Ukraine has hindered a lot of commitments to reductions in oil and gas (and even coal, according to John Kerry) production. He says it's not justified. Still feels like there is a wavering in the commitments to me. 
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