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The Environment Thread :-)

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Apr 2022
4:14pm, 11 Apr 2022
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rf_fozzy
Yes, that's a far more efficient way of ensuring maximised RE useage JDA.

And one of the reasons why vast storage options aren't needed.

A domestic battery needs to cycle about 1/week and can charge when there is excess wind/solar.

Distributed energy generation and storage is the key.

Which is why the nuclear bollocks last week was stupid.
Apr 2022
4:22pm, 11 Apr 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
Right, but we're back to "Everything, and Now!" So while it would be better if all energy were generated greenly, all transmission was efficient and all usage was minimized and smoothed, it isn't! Until it is, it is better that we all do as many of the tiny, inefficient, and admittedly far less effective things, than nothing.

I think that's what we're being told?

Doing these things mustn't be seen as "instead of" fixing all the big things that jda and fozzy you quite rightly say. But in addition to... ? :-) G
jda
Apr 2022
5:20pm, 11 Apr 2022
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jda
Daily cycling seems like an important benchmark, and it’s easier to store 12h of use than 3 days!
Apr 2022
6:00pm, 11 Apr 2022
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HappyTimes
Is reducing our dependency/usage not the far better route than finding fix arounds?
jda
Apr 2022
6:03pm, 11 Apr 2022
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jda
There’s always going to be a cycle of usage and intermittency of supply. Storage will be an important component of any energy strategy that uses significant amounts of solar and wind.
Apr 2022
10:40am, 19 Apr 2022
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3M (aka MarkyMarkMark)
Going back a few days, someone in Aviva Investors has put together this on the proposed Nuclear generation and investment from private investors rather than (only) government.

avivainvestors.com

TLDR: Unless the Government can help put together a compelling benefit case which includes good Environmental Social Governance, private investors/institutions probably won't touch it with a bargepole, and there's not the "government" funding to go it alone.

So it looks unlikely to happen, I'd guess.
Apr 2022
12:18pm, 19 Apr 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
The problem with proposing speculative nuclear is it diverts commitment and resources from wind and solar which can be deployed now.

Interesting link - thanks 3M. :-) G
Apr 2022
3:27pm, 29 Apr 2022
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Fields
See how polluted your local air is

addresspollution.org

16th percentile for me :-)

Another reason why I’m happy to see anti-oil protests by ER / Just Stop Oil etc.
Apr 2022
3:31pm, 29 Apr 2022
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K5 Gus
0th national percentile 😁😁
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3:33pm, 29 Apr 2022
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K5 Gus
Although currently at my dad's, and it's 15th national percentile here

About This Thread

Maintained by HappyG(rrr)
Hi
I've seen environment (whether emissions, power, climate change, access to countryside, whatever you think of as "environment") discussed in various threads: Politics (obviously), the Electric Car thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/electric-car-anyone-61481/ , run free's excellent "Competitive Running and Keeping The Environment Clean" fetcheveryone.com/forum/running-competitively-keeping-our-environment-clean-60907/ my own Greta Thunberg thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/greta-thunberg---jfk-for-the-climate-generation-61044/ etc. but I haven't seen a general one.

So here it is. For those interested in the science, the politics, the action for (and I'll state that for me, this is mostly pro-environment, anti-emissions, anti-pollution etc.) and the hope for the future of our planet.

Useful links posted by contributors:
rf_fozzy: This is quite a good article about how disruptive technology works too: lesswrong.com
Basically about why Kodak completely missed the boat when it came to digital cameras timkastelle.org
run free's Grand Designs example Ben Laws is a man who built his dream: granddesignsmagazine.com granddesignsmagazine.com
Carbon Commentary carboncommentary.com
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