The Environment Thread :-)
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Mar 2022
11:18am, 9 Mar 2022
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Hanneke
My cars have always lasted 200.000 miles plus! I have bought 2nd hand and sold on. I have only owned 2 cars and a van, including my current car and I doubt I will own any more. My first was sold in favour of a van, for my gardening business. Then, when mum died, I used some of my inheritance to buy my small, low mileage, frugal, clean estate car. I intend for it to last me. I am 57, it has done 20.000 miles, it is now 6 years old... I do about 6000 miles a year, if that, so 20 years more is very feasible I think... |
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Mar 2022
11:23am, 9 Mar 2022
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Hanneke
Oh, I only bought a car when I moved here in 2006... So that was in 2007, when I realised I really could not function on a bike, after a year of trying. The nearest shops are 13 miles away... And not being able to carry much on the bike, hilly, potholed, single track, trailer not an option, meant I had to cycle into town almost daily. I didn't start growing my own food and keeping chickens until 2014, when I was housebound, unable to drive, walk, cycle... That made me realise how dependent I was on a car: no public transport, nearest station is 13 miles away, nearest busstop 6... And busses aren't frequent, so taking the bus into town would take day... However: by the time I retire the car I will be retired and have a pony and trap ☺️ |
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Mar 2022
11:45am, 9 Mar 2022
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fuzzyduck79
Car leases (esp through work/business) feel like a big contributor to the problem of some people having a new car every 3 years. I don't believe there should be tax breaks for this, incentivising behaviour which leads to more congestion and pollution. |
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Mar 2022
1:30pm, 9 Mar 2022
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JRitchie
The average age of the car on the road today is 11 years and on average a person holds a car for 6 years. There is of course a huge range of issues around how often people replace their cars. some people drive more miles and they tend to get replaced more frequently as car running costs increase. Other people are "into" cars and change more frequently because they simply want to. Company cars have no tax breaks now - unless you are going electric or have high work mileage (in which case you probably need a company car). - but that's a policy to encourage change from FF cars and is environmentally drive- that break will be removed when FF cars are sufficiently phased out. |
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Mar 2022
1:50pm, 9 Mar 2022
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fuzzyduck79
This source suggests 8.4 years is average age of UK car as of May 2021: autoexpress.co.uk |
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Mar 2022
1:55pm, 9 Mar 2022
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fuzzyduck79
Motability scheme also offers 3 year leases for most users. I could be missing something but that feels unnecessarily short. I have bought ex motability cars before, they tend to have below average mileage. Sometimes so low that it's not really that great for the car, but my point is that they have many years more driving in them. |
Mar 2022
7:38pm, 9 Mar 2022
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run free
The guardian has an article on six key areas everyone in rich countries can do to avert the climate crisis theguardian.com
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Mar 2022
7:39pm, 9 Mar 2022
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Fields
That seems familiar rf 
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Mar 2022
10:50am, 10 Mar 2022
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run free
Oops you posted before 😮😀
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Mar 2022
1:07pm, 11 Mar 2022
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Chrisull
Wait what - so I spent thousands replacing a dead boiler with another fossil fuel one, when I really didn't want to, but couldn't afford to do any differently, and yet had I lived in Italy they give you 110% in credits over 5 years for energy efficiency improvements, for which I would have easily qualified: twitter.com This country is sooo backward. IN fact its an absolute disgrace. |
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