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The Environment Thread :-)

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HappyG(rrr)
HappyG(rrr)
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I posted this on the Politics thread, where the market driven electricity market and how "green" energy prices could go up, when clearly the cost of the wind, sun or tide that made the electricity doesn't change.

"We chat about that on the Environment Thread um, yes, summary is we need to do more of *all* of the electricity generation and storage solutions AND all of the cutting down usage AND all of the other reductions in consumption, waste etc. All of it!

The daft thing is there are loads of great storage solutions available (as well as generation) but it's back to the markets thing - unless you tax the shizzle out of OnG and/or incentivise and subsidise (initially) the renewable generation and storage, then OnG has a 100 year head start, as well as a massive vested interests of those in power and political lobbying power. All imho, as I understand it, other views are available etc. etc.!

And we need to do all of it and much, much more quickly. At the moment, our grandkids won't have much of a planet to live in, and even our kids are going to be feeling the pain."


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JRitchie
JRitchie
Mar 2022
2:10pm, 11 Mar 2022
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News of Gment grant money going into 40 ideas and initiatives around energy networks and net zero.

ofgem.gov.uk
Fields
Fields
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4:16pm, 11 Mar 2022
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A quick primer on solar panels.

I need the roof to be oriented south to be worth the ROI basically? Assuming that I’ll be living in the property for the rest of my years.
JRitchie
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We have plans for solar on our house which are West / East facing sections. Don't think its needs to be south.
Fields
Fields
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5:36pm, 11 Mar 2022
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Ah that’s interesting. Just spotted a house in the village which has them on what looks to be a westward orientation
run free
run free
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I believe South facing is the best. Variations after that would have less ROI but still would generate. Mine is South West, installed in 2009. When I was on a PAYG meter, I paid about 50 GBP for 5 months. Electricity company not happy with that and replaced my PAYG meter with a normal meter. I pay a lot in standing charges.

Am looking for a battery solution and will move to Octopus I think
Fields
Fields
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Orientation is one of many considerations. It’s hard to know what to prioritise on a limited budget. I want this house to last me so let’s see
run free
run free
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If you’re somewhere windy have you considered a domestic wind turbine + battery?
Fields
Fields
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From a quick google the upfront cost would be too high, and I don’t think I’d be in that windy a location as I’m not upcountry
Hanneke
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I am moving towards wind & solar combined with a fully off grid system i.e. linking the chapel too.

About This Thread

Maintained by HappyG(rrr)
Hi
I've seen environment (whether emissions, power, climate change, access to countryside, whatever you think of as "environment") discussed in various threads: Politics (obviously), the Electric Car thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/electric-car-anyone-61481/ , run free's excellent "Competitive Running and Keeping The Environment Clean" fetcheveryone.com/forum/running-competitively-keeping-our-environment-clean-60907/ my own Greta Thunberg thread fetcheveryone.com/forum/greta-thunberg---jfk-for-the-climate-generation-61044/ etc. but I haven't seen a general one.

So here it is. For those interested in the science, the politics, the action for (and I'll state that for me, this is mostly pro-environment, anti-emissions, anti-pollution etc.) and the hope for the future of our planet.

Useful links posted by contributors:
rf_fozzy: This is quite a good article about how disruptive technology works too: lesswrong.com
Basically about why Kodak completely missed the boat when it came to digital cameras timkastelle.org
run free's Grand Designs example Ben Laws is a man who built his dream: granddesignsmagazine.com granddesignsmagazine.com
Carbon Commentary carboncommentary.com
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