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The Dishwasher Club

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Jun 2019
12:26pm, 10 Jun 2019
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Lizzie W
I cook, he washes, I put away. I am better at maximising the draining rack and washing things in the right order.
Jun 2019
12:27pm, 10 Jun 2019
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Wednesday Mouse
Never had a dishwasher - I've only ever lived in rented places with no space for a dishwasher, and no authority or incentive to redo the kitchen to accommodate a dishwasher.

Even as a kid, despite much petitioning from the chief washer-upperer (ie. Me), my parents didn't get one. They blamed the tiny kitchen. Now they've got a much bigger kitchen and.. still don't have one.

The day I get a dishwasher will be a momentous occasion.

Also.. Interesting article re: environmental credentials of dishwashers vs hand washing. Ultimately, unless you're super duper stingy with the hot water and careful with hand washing, dishwashers come out a snore environmentally sound.

theguardian.com
Jun 2019
12:27pm, 10 Jun 2019
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Lizzie W
+1 for D2

I would like a half sink (we didn't have space).
Jun 2019
12:28pm, 10 Jun 2019
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KatieB
I am better at loading the dishwasher in our house. Fact.

Plates touching...why would you leave them like that? Why? For the love of everything, why?
Improperly scraped plates? No. This will not do.
And the Wok? Wok Not. Ever.

Thankfully, I'm pretty chilled about it though.
D2
Jun 2019
12:29pm, 10 Jun 2019
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D2
I have two sinks.......... :)
Jun 2019
12:31pm, 10 Jun 2019
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Mrs Jigs (Luverlylegs)
Pre rinse before loading or not?

Neither of us would dream of loading without rinsing first.
Jun 2019
12:31pm, 10 Jun 2019
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McGoohan
Ours is an Ikea kitchen and the double sinks they did wouldn't fit our space. I reckon in Sweden they probably have elks that stick their heads through the windows and lick the plates clean.
Jun 2019
12:33pm, 10 Jun 2019
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RunningRonnie
I remember having an argument with myself when I lived in a rented flat.

Me: I would love a dishwasher. I don't want the hassle of getting one plumbed in, despite there being a space for one.

Me: You can get small ones that sit on top of the worktop and just connect to the taps. No plumbing needed. You should go look at those.

Me: OK.

Me: Wait, they're just as expensive as a full size one. I should just buy a full size one.

Me: OK, but you'll need to get it plumbed in.

Me: Oh. I can't be bothered with that. I'll just leave it.

Me: I wish I had a dishwasher.

Me: Buys a house that comes with a dishwasher.
Jun 2019
12:37pm, 10 Jun 2019
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Diogenes
We have some pasta bowls that have to be stacked with a gap between them or else they nestle together like spoons and don't come clean. Very annoying, and an inefficient use of space, but it has to be done. We've had them for several years now, yet some are still learning. This is similar to realising that the garlic press does not get clean in the dishwasher, it merely bakes on the residual garlic.*

*The trick to getting the garlic press clean is to use the prongs of a corn on the cob holder to remove the tiny spheres of garlic from the holes, or don't use the press at all and crush the cloves using the flat of a large knife. If you must use the press, peel the cloves first.

(I might have to start another thread)
Jun 2019
12:39pm, 10 Jun 2019
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Velociraptor
Our dishwasher died nearly two years ago and we wondered how long we could hold out before replacing it. We haven't really missed it.

eL Bee! and I were both the best at packing the dishwasher (left to my own devices I'm fucking awesome at that sort of thing, but was willing to accept that since the buzzy one was in charge of domestic stuff his way was OK too) but the kids just opened the door and heaved their cups and bowls in.

About This Thread

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Do you trust anyone else in your house to load the dishwasher other than yourself? Of course you don't!

Perhaps there's a tetrathlon we could do: swim-bike-run-fill dishwasher?
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Some advice from icemaiden who has actual expertise in this area:

In another life I was part of the team advising the UK govt and EU energy efficiency program about consumer use of DWs and have spent more than than I care to think about loading and unloading for test purposes.

The eco program takes ages but will use less energy than the standard program because it does not heat to such a high temperature. There's a triangle of time vs temperature vs cleanliness. To get the required level of cleaning, it is regulated via the eco design regulations, the time has to be long because the energy consumption has to be below a certain level, also regulated.

Please clean the filters. And clean inside at the bottom of the door, you will be surprised at the gunk that gets down there.

Cutlery is best mixed to make sure most of them get clean

Scrape off the lumps of food. Don't prewash or soak unless burnt on stuff.

Salt is necessary in hard water areas, but use the lowest salt setting if using with tablets.

Testing really has shown that the majority of people use more water and energy to hand wash the same load. So fill your machine as best you can.

Two dishwashers are definitely the way forward.

Slimline and tabletop dishwashers aren't as efficient as full size and best avoided.

Knives up or down is personal preference, but there have been some nasty accidents when, usually small, people tripped/fell into the cutlery basket when the door was open and the lower basket pulled out and knives were blade up. Many baskets can be positioned in different places so you could try another place.

Cutlery trays work for some people, but others can't be arsed with the faff of doing it properly.

Many upper baskets can be adjusted upwards to allow for big plates in the lower basket, but some people don't bother to find out how they work. If you put large glasses in the top basket then you might need to lower the basket, some can even accommodate both large plate and long stem glasses.

Price difference is mostly to do with build quality. Cheaper models have plastic bases rather than metal and the baskets have fewer adjustable features. Although entry level Miele have very fixed baskets.

Number of place settings is based on standard tableware, and may not be the same as your set, always good to take plates along if in any doubt.

Eat your Weetabix and scrape out the leftovers.

Porridge is one of the test soils because it is so difficult. The others are tea, dried milk, egg, spinach, mince and margarine. The test detergent is not the same as the ones in the shops, but all machines have to reach a certain, high, level of cleaning and drying on the eco program. And there's not a lot of difference in performance these days, you're paying for convenience and longevity.
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