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The Dishwasher Club

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Jun 2019
12:02pm, 10 Jun 2019
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Markymarkmark
Your ex was clearly just being awkward, MrsJigs. ;-)

SarahWoo, most young adults have no idea about washing up anything, it goes with the territory! I work near an IT Support desk - average age=university graduate! The heaps of washing up they leave in/around/vaguely near the breakout area kitchen sink is ridiculous.

It the fact there is a dishwasher there that they haven't even realised can be used that amazes me even more!
Jun 2019
12:02pm, 10 Jun 2019
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Diogenes
I am very systematic and maximise the amount of stuff I am able to get into the machine ensuring everything gets clean. I rinse things that need rinsing first and ensure that nothing is placed so that it gets in the way of the rotor. Mrs D seems to place things randomly in the middle of the available space. Others in the family just leave stuff on the worktop above the dishwasher which annoys me just as much, even though they wouldn't do it properly. If there is stuff in the machine that I know we'll need before the cycle has finished, I wash it up by hand.
Jun 2019
12:07pm, 10 Jun 2019
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RunningRonnie
I want to have two dishwashers. My system would be as follows:

Step 1: Two empty dishwashers. All cupboards full of dishes. Take from cupboards and use.
Step 2: Put dirty plates/cups/knives into dishwasher 1. Repeat until full.
Step 3: Switch on dishwasher 1.

Step 4: Now, use dirty dishes from dishwasher 1. Do not put these in the cupboard. This is where they live now.
Step 4: Put dirty plates/cups/knives into dishwasher 2. Repeat until full
Step 5 and forever: Switch on dishwasher 2. Replace dirty dishes into dishwasher 1.
Jun 2019
12:10pm, 10 Jun 2019
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RunningRonnie
However, I've been told I'm not allowed to do that. My next system of having every cupboard double up as a dishwasher was also denied. As such, I have some rules that must be followed when stacking a dish washer:

Knives, forks, spoons, etc. must have their own whole in the cutlery thingy. Do not mix spoons and forks together. It makes it much easier for emptying later.

Spoons cannot be allowed to spoon. The bottom of one does not clean if they do.

Plates must go on the left hand side. I don't know why.

Fill the back before the front.
Jun 2019
12:14pm, 10 Jun 2019
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lammo
Could we create The Ten Commandments of Dishwashers?
Jun 2019
12:15pm, 10 Jun 2019
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McGoohan
We have a slight 'fitting' issue with plates as well as we have two designs/makes and you have to ensure you put the correct plates together. If you mix the plates, they can touch and that means potential chipping.

Shock confession time - I am a new convert to putting the occasional lightly soiled* pan in. Since youngest has gone to Uni, the dishwasher isn't as full as it used to be and an I can optimise space-usage with a well placed pan. Also: mixing bowl and a small Le Creuset casserole.

*No, not soiled that</> way.
Jun 2019
12:15pm, 10 Jun 2019
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RunningRonnie
We could. No one would listen though.
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Jun 2019
12:15pm, 10 Jun 2019
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R4R
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's dishwasher ...
Jun 2019
12:17pm, 10 Jun 2019
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McGoohan
Honour the Lord thy dishwasher

Do not worship graven dishwashers
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Jun 2019
12:22pm, 10 Jun 2019
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D2
I am anti dishwasher, however reading this thread I have a comment.... or two....

I feel some correspondents should ditch all their crockery etc and buy new that is the appropriate shape and size to fit in a dishwasher.... I may have found a new business opportunity?

Despite not having a dishwasher I do have views about how washing up should be loaded in the sink for a pre wash soak; i.e. all cutlery should be with the handle to the right hand side, plates at the bottom and dishes on top. Greasy things should be washed last.

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Do you trust anyone else in your house to load the dishwasher other than yourself? Of course you don't!

Perhaps there's a tetrathlon we could do: swim-bike-run-fill dishwasher?
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Some advice from icemaiden who has actual expertise in this area:

In another life I was part of the team advising the UK govt and EU energy efficiency program about consumer use of DWs and have spent more than than I care to think about loading and unloading for test purposes.

The eco program takes ages but will use less energy than the standard program because it does not heat to such a high temperature. There's a triangle of time vs temperature vs cleanliness. To get the required level of cleaning, it is regulated via the eco design regulations, the time has to be long because the energy consumption has to be below a certain level, also regulated.

Please clean the filters. And clean inside at the bottom of the door, you will be surprised at the gunk that gets down there.

Cutlery is best mixed to make sure most of them get clean

Scrape off the lumps of food. Don't prewash or soak unless burnt on stuff.

Salt is necessary in hard water areas, but use the lowest salt setting if using with tablets.

Testing really has shown that the majority of people use more water and energy to hand wash the same load. So fill your machine as best you can.

Two dishwashers are definitely the way forward.

Slimline and tabletop dishwashers aren't as efficient as full size and best avoided.

Knives up or down is personal preference, but there have been some nasty accidents when, usually small, people tripped/fell into the cutlery basket when the door was open and the lower basket pulled out and knives were blade up. Many baskets can be positioned in different places so you could try another place.

Cutlery trays work for some people, but others can't be arsed with the faff of doing it properly.

Many upper baskets can be adjusted upwards to allow for big plates in the lower basket, but some people don't bother to find out how they work. If you put large glasses in the top basket then you might need to lower the basket, some can even accommodate both large plate and long stem glasses.

Price difference is mostly to do with build quality. Cheaper models have plastic bases rather than metal and the baskets have fewer adjustable features. Although entry level Miele have very fixed baskets.

Number of place settings is based on standard tableware, and may not be the same as your set, always good to take plates along if in any doubt.

Eat your Weetabix and scrape out the leftovers.

Porridge is one of the test soils because it is so difficult. The others are tea, dried milk, egg, spinach, mince and margarine. The test detergent is not the same as the ones in the shops, but all machines have to reach a certain, high, level of cleaning and drying on the eco program. And there's not a lot of difference in performance these days, you're paying for convenience and longevity.
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