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Aug 2008
2:46pm, 13 Aug 2008
4,295 posts
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controversial
of course MX ... different opinions, and as long as they are based on some evidence and facts then we can all choose what is best ... the choice is ours 
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Aug 2008
9:41pm, 13 Aug 2008
686 posts
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NZC
mxhornet - you are right in saying that racing other individuals does come into it. When I did my good times, I was trying to win the women's section. Now that is a huge carrot. I was never a runner that came from behind. When I did my best time, 2.47.25, I did win the women's section, and the girl who came second was coming home like a train, but the race wasn't 27 miles! I was dying like a dog, but I got there first. If you guys think starting off at 2.48 pace is crazy, to do my best time, my coach had me setting of at 6 min mile pace, but for the week before I had to visualise myself, starting off at 6s, feeling fast and relaxed and not think about the finish. When the gun went off, I did go out at that pace, and the guys around me said, "too fast", but I just felt great. Sure, it feels really bad about the 20 mile mark, but if you've got your nose in front, it is amazing how you can hang on.
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Aug 2008
10:02pm, 13 Aug 2008
2,132 posts
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Keefy Beefy
Well I think the end justifies the means. You got your PB that way and won the race so nobody can say it didn't work!
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Aug 2008
10:17pm, 13 Aug 2008
688 posts
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NZC
Keefy - as all you guys know, so many things can happen in the marathon. You can train well and get a pig of a day. Then you have to forget about time if you decide you are still going to run, and then you go for best possible place. To break 3hrs is a goal worth achieving, to have a time that starts with 2 is great, as even the world's best time only starts with 2.
Good luck people, I'll leave your thread alone, and leave it to those that can do it now, and stay where I should be now, at 57 years of age, still trying to stay under 4hrs!!
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Aug 2008
10:19pm, 13 Aug 2008
2,133 posts
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Keefy Beefy
I will also leave - back to sub 3:15 where I belong
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Aug 2008
2:33pm, 14 Aug 2008
14,306 posts
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mxhornet
I think I still have at least one more sub 3 in me. When I decide to target a marathon again that is.
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Aug 2008
3:06pm, 14 Aug 2008
13,468 posts
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B.B.
NZC - stick around - your input is very valuable!!
Did a 3000m track race for the first time last night. Struggled round in 10:30. That hurt! My club mate who I tri train with did 9:51. Much better!
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Aug 2008
3:49pm, 16 Aug 2008
54 posts
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AlanO
Ran a hilly 11 miler last night in 1.14. Last time I ran it that fast was 4 years ago when I was running 1.22 for my halfs. Hopefully a good sign that I'm getting somewhere.
Heres a question - I know the last 20+Mile should be 3 weeks before. The problem I've got is I'm doing a half marathon that day. So my dilema is can I safely do a 18-20 mile marathon pace 2 weeks before my event or will it blow my chances.
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Aug 2008
2:30pm, 18 Aug 2008
292 posts
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Ex-pat Scot
I'd say it'll blow your chances, Twopies.
Nice fast run last night though.
If you are doing the half 3 weeks before, then I'd make that into a "20" by adding a nice 2-3 warm up then the balance of the "20" as a warm down nice and slow.
I'd also bank a steady 20 the weekend beforehand, if I could.
Saying that- I CBA'd yesterday on the LSR 20 I should have done. It's the Mabo marathon in 4 weeks, but at 4:45am it was coming down in stair rods and forecast to flood until 10am, so I wisely went back to bed and settled for a modest 4.5 tempo last night, instead.
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Aug 2008
6:32pm, 18 Aug 2008
57 posts
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AlanO
Thanks Ex Pat - Now thinking about a 16miler Marathon race pace 2 weeks before Berlin.
Planned to do a 2hr45m run yesterday but misjudged it and it turned into a 3hr5min run. Ran between 23-24miles. On the positive side I now remember how hard its going to be over that last 30-40mins. Legs were shot afterwards but took a days completed rest today and they now feel fine.
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