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Feb 2010
2:40pm, 26 Feb 2010
34,189 posts
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Gobi
mj - I still don't think I can run that fast
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Feb 2010
3:05pm, 26 Feb 2010
556 posts
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Jhuff
Can't never could.......:(
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Feb 2010
3:30pm, 26 Feb 2010
6,120 posts
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Blister
Wow Moraghan thats awsome! If you get to that shape, you will be ranked very highly in the UK!
I mean look at this guy who was ranked 18th M35 in the UK last year and he "only" ran 2.01
Do you remember what your first ever 800m time was?
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Feb 2010
5:14pm, 26 Feb 2010
3 posts
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Moraghan
I've rooted around. In august 2000 I ran 2:02.23. It was a weak race and I do remember having a fairly heavy night beforehand and was a bit hungover. Ah, to be young again!
Progression:
Aug '00: 2:02.23
May '01: 1:59.4
Jun '01: 1:59.56
Aug '01: 1:56.61
Jul '09: 2:00.70 (3rd, very slow early pace)
Aug '09: 2:08
Aug '09: 1:57.12
The '00 and '01 races (and the 2:08) were done in weak races and with massed starts (not restricted to own lane for first 100m). In 2001 I had very good speed, but poor stamina - this year I've been working on stamina and trying to coax the speed back.
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Feb 2010
5:27pm, 26 Feb 2010
6,121 posts
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Blister
Thats interesting to see your progression. With the May '01 to Aug '01 do you think you managed to knock those 3 seconds off by improving your stamina?
So before doing those 800's did you have a good 400m background?
I'm interested to see how it's translated. I know I need to work on speed. Quickest 400m I've recorded was 56 in a training session (time trial). But I'm guessing I'm gonna need to get that down to around 52/53/54 to get a sub 2 800 (depending on my strength vs speed).
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Feb 2010
5:40pm, 26 Feb 2010
4 posts
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Moraghan
I have every session in minute detail. Basically I was doing multipace training but without much LT or endurance work - mainly 200s - 400s fast and another session of vo2 max. I also had a pacer for one lap in the 1:56 (but he went too slow).
I sprinted (11.1 for 100m) and jumped a bit at university (and did one 400m at about 51.0) age and then didn't do any specific run training until jun '00 where I ran 18:14 for a 5k. I had no 400m background but ran a 50.77 in april '01, a 50.44 in May and a 49.7 in July).
Last year I ran two 400's in 52.0 and 52.03 - I went off much too quick for the second one because there was a girl in the race and I had the outside lane (how sad is that). Had a very short season last year and never really addressed 400m speed, which I'm correcting this year. Will be very disappointed if I can't go close to 50 this year.
I agree that you're going to have to get some 400m speed - although I'm an extreme example of weak stamina so you won't need to be at those times! I got a lot out of sessions like 2 * (4 * 200) done quickly in 2001, but this year I am also doing some shorter acceleration reps as well.
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Feb 2010
7:34pm, 27 Feb 2010
557 posts
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Jhuff
Sub 2min 800m runners,
Hi...I just had a nice 14 x 200m session @32 sec average with 70sec recovery between each.
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Mar 2010
11:21am, 2 Mar 2010
34,256 posts
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Gobi
I did maximal 100s last night and given that 4 reps took me 55 seconds when added together I really am a long way from a 2 min 800 :¬0
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Mar 2010
1:28pm, 2 Mar 2010
6,129 posts
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Blister
Moraghan, I wish I had your natural speed! Do you have any other sporting backgrounds? I hope I don't need a 52/53 sec 400m as well!
Nice one Jhuff, are you enjoying running fast again? Bet it's not the same as your sub 4 min mile days!
Gobi, your almost there mate  just need to put 8 of them together at almost that speed!
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Mar 2010
1:54pm, 2 Mar 2010
34,262 posts
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Gobi
I know mate first target is 2 together :¬)
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