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7:36pm, 10 Oct 2022
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Son of a Pronator Man
thats a good grass course and from memory I don't recall any very boggy sections
Oct 2022
9:05pm, 10 Oct 2022
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iaincr
i am now in the innov8 mud claw camp, much better support and great grip. spikes are lighter but not enough to make any difference to me. Cumbernauld tends to be quite firm underfoot,
Oct 2022
7:34am, 11 Oct 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
I like spikes. They feel great! More grip if it's wet, snow, very muddy. Annoying on short rock or tarmac path sections! Usually pretty cheap- I got a pIr for £20. Plus long spikes- 12mm or 15mm for another £3. :-) G
Oct 2022
7:48am, 11 Oct 2022
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57.5 Degrees of Pain
I'd agree with iaincr. Mud claws cope with most terrain well unless you are trying to eke out the last few marginal gains. There have been a few local courses I've preferred spikes for but it probably made no performance difference.
Oct 2022
8:41am, 11 Oct 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
I don't think about it as performance enhancement. I think about it as staying upright! With spikes you have more confidence. Not trying to convince anyone either way. I wear Inov-8s (and have worn Walshes and other fell shoes) for 13 years for hills and trails. But in XC, if it's super muddy and slippy then long spikes have more grip than even the best fell shoes. Which means less chance of going A over T! But horse for courses etc! :-) G
Oct 2022
8:57am, 11 Oct 2022
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K5 Gus
The grip on the front of your foot is fine with spikes, but there's more or less zero grip on the heels.

I know it's racing, and your supposed to be on your toes, etc, but especially on downhill sections where it's normal to heel strike then I've found spikes to be at times pretty sketchy.

If there's any steep downhills, then a pair of mudclaws/x-talons with 8mm lugs at the heels as well as forefoot far better imo, if you're happy with the accepted weight penalty they incur.
A flat course with no hills then spikes would be better
Oct 2022
9:40am, 11 Oct 2022
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iaincr
I wore mudclaws at Falkirk last year, as one of the last runners on the course after the kids, ladies and 2 laps of the faster runners (being lapped) , on a muddy course I didnt feel the slightest insecure, glided up the ditch at the bridge, well I say glided :)!.

A few years earlier on a muddy course at balloch castle for the wests, wearing 12mm spikes, I did a 20 meter slide on my back after slipping on the final downhill and had a few occasions where there was an angle on the uphill i nearly slipped as my foot slid down the camber.

But as said what ever works best for you!
Oct 2022
12:50pm, 11 Oct 2022
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damo_HAC
I much prefer the spikes, with mudclaws I always feel I'm carrying enough soil for a potted plant so if I'm 'racing' a XC I would wear spikes. Dont remember feeling out of control on the downhill sections.

But if I'm in the Pentland Hills during winter the mudclaws are better and more forgiving on the feet as they have a little more cushion.
Oct 2022
11:50pm, 11 Oct 2022
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Glenorchil
How was the Neil McCover 57.5DoP? I'm gutted I missed it. Falkland's squirrel t-shirts are awesome Ally. Lots of Kinross doing Tufty Trail Race too, glad you enjoyed it! Fiona Matheson is amazing. G


Did the Neil McCover myself last Sunday, 'rolling' and as said elsewhere the headwind on the long straight after the climb up from Torrance was a bit leg sapping, enjoyed it though, and the safety cover at junctions / sing points was superb.
Oct 2022
11:39am, 14 Oct 2022
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Ultracat
Hi, I am staying in Clydebank for a few days in a couple of weeks time. Is it possible to run along the river Clyde and is it safe to do so. I don’t know the area at all but will be staying at Golden Jubilee hotel.

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