11 Feb
9:38am, 11 Feb 2025
22,644 posts
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Chrisull
(not flippant, Google removing the clause saying AI couldn't be used for weapons, at roughly the same time is a dealbreaker)
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11 Feb
9:48am, 11 Feb 2025
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larkim
I don't have an issue with the naming thing in the sense that I would much rather the mapping being a-political - providing they are consistent with where they source their names, and that is from "official" sources, they are then at least consistent. Not read about that AI clause; will have to dig in deeper. Though I would have to be dragged kicking and screaming to a state where I ever use Apple devices so I may end up continuing to support a evil organisations simply because I like their software. |
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11 Feb
9:55am, 11 Feb 2025
22,645 posts
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Chrisull
Apple are actually one of the few titans not to remove their DEI stuff so far.... unlike Google, Amazon, Meta...
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11 Feb
9:58am, 11 Feb 2025
7,433 posts
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paulcook
larkim wrote: I don't have an issue with the naming thing in the sense that I would much rather the mapping being a-political Define a-political. Look at Google Maps for Punjab, in India, Pakistan, China (whether Google works in China might be another thing) and it shows different country borders, etc. Mind, the only Gulf of America I subscribe to, is between Trump's ears. |
11 Feb
10:50am, 11 Feb 2025
10,050 posts
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simbil
Names of places are a bit like language in that dictionaries will update definitions and introduce new words based on common usage. If there is a historic reason for renaming the Gulf because lots of Americans think it was called something else and should be called something else, then it's much the same and the map makers should take it into account. If however it is some deranged mind fart from a leader like Trump, then it is purely political, assuming it wasn't the reason people voted for him and it's just some crap he decided he'd do. I don't think it was mentioned in the election at all, so it's surely sane-washing to accept it as anything other than just more batshit? |
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11 Feb
10:57am, 11 Feb 2025
7,434 posts
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paulcook
simbil wrote: I don't think it was mentioned in the election at all, so it's surely sane-washing to accept it as anything other than just more batshit? I've read before the idea has been floating about more than 25 years. Whether that was similar batshits is another thing. |
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11 Feb
11:45am, 11 Feb 2025
26,603 posts
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larkim
simbil wrote: If however it is some deranged mind fart from a leader like Trump, then it is purely political, assuming it wasn't the reason people voted for him and it's just some crap he decided he'd do. I don't think it was mentioned in the election at all, so it's surely sane-washing to accept it as anything other than just more batshit? It's clearly purely political in terms of why Trump did it. The question is whether it should be up to a commercial maps provider to take that into account. I'm not sure they should, as that would instantly bring them into the political debate. |
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11 Feb
12:24pm, 11 Feb 2025
10,051 posts
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simbil
I guess Google's position would be tested as and when North Korea "officially" renames USA to some trolling name instead. Will the UK get to see the troll name in brackets under USA? I'm going out on a limb here to predict it would not happen and so Google's position is not without political considerations. |
11 Feb
12:29pm, 11 Feb 2025
47,026 posts
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SPR
I think the issue is whether the US can change the name (which is unclear as it seems no more one has sovereignty). North Korea can't rename the US and the US can't rename North Korea or Mexico. bbc.co.uk |
11 Feb
12:36pm, 11 Feb 2025
31,646 posts
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richmac
Different countries calling things by different names isn't unheard of is it ? La Malvinas, La Manche to name a couple
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