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Johnny Blaze
Johnny Blaze
8 Feb
9:42am, 8 Feb 2025
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Sitting out an election or voting third party in an election that was on a knife edge is looking like a really stellar choice now. *slow handclap*

An Arab American group that played a key part in Donald Trump’s re-election campaign is rebranding after the president said the U.S. would turn the Gaza Strip into the “Riviera of the Middle East”.

The group, formerly known as Arab Americans for Trump, would now be called Arab Americans for Peace, chairman Bishara Bahbah said.

It came after Trump earlier this week held a press conference at the White House, where he said the U.S. would take “ownership” of the war-torn territory.

In a press release issued Wednesday by Arab Americans for Peace, the group said its members “appreciate the president's offer to clean and rebuild Gaza” but “take issue with the president's suggestion of taking over Gaza and removing its Palestinian inhabitants.”

It staggers me still that people could choose Trump as the lesser of two evils in anything. But here we are, democracy in the US is on the edge, worker, consumer and environmental protections being stripped away daily, federal gov being hollowed out and the world's poor being abandoned - as widely predicted.

All in less than 3 weeks. Sheesh.
Dave W
Dave W
8 Feb
9:58am, 8 Feb 2025
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Yeah. But “MAGA” innit.
SPR
SPR
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I think Biden and Harris had a responsibility on this. They supported the war for 15 months and no one can say that the ceasefire would have happened if they won (and it's not something they could have promised with any credibility). The group specifically in JB's post may not have been won over by a different stance but many others would have been. On this specific issue, I don't see how it wasn't on Harris and Biden to do more.
Johnny Blaze
Johnny Blaze
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1:00pm, 8 Feb 2025
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Well they have (checks notes) another 205 weeks of Buyer's Remorse before they get even a sniff of a chance at recovering their country from the 💩 that is coming at them.

The odds must *shurely* be on American Democracy being dead by then. History repeating itself. So many opportunities lost, mistakes made, roads not chosen.
macca 53
macca 53
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We might have Gilead before 205 weeks has passed…
SPR
SPR
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Unless they won't be able to vote then democracy will be in tact. Everything that's happened so far is democracy in action. If the election was rerun now, would the result be different. Many people will be happy with what's happening.
SPR
SPR
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Trump’s second term: Early ratings and expectations

pewresearch.org
SPR
SPR
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If I recall the post election numbers correctly, the Hispanic polling may have further swung away from Trump (reasons for that seem obvious). Nothing else looks especially different yet IIRC.
simbil
simbil
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3:46pm, 8 Feb 2025
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SPR wrote:Trump’s second term: Early ratings and expectations pewresearch.org


Interesting reading. Of all the criticisms you can lay at Trump's door, being the crazy dictator people wanted him to be is not one of them - very big approval from his base!

Could be some big tests for democracies elsewhere ahead. Lots of similarly struggling and divided nations plus armies of misinformation and hate bots wedging divisions ever deeper, with populist leaders happy to spring up and cash in.
Here's hoping the UK can hang on to some of its tolerance and kindness.
Johnny Blaze
Johnny Blaze
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10:15pm, 8 Feb 2025
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Would that Karl Popper were here..

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