22 Nov
10:17am, 22 Nov 2024
5,737 posts
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J2R
Was never a fan of Hague but he was always one of the more intelligent ones. Their leadership has got worse and worse in recent years as idiocy has gripped the Right.
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22 Nov
10:47am, 22 Nov 2024
1,516 posts
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Fenners-Reborn
It appears that the right have no sense of respect, honour or dignity. Surely you can have differing opinions and still respect others that hold diametrically opposite views?
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22 Nov
12:41pm, 22 Nov 2024
28,477 posts
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TROSaracen
Not respecting diametrically opposite views is something we on the left are VERY guilty of. Embarrassingly so, IMO. I remember a more inclusive and tolerant left when I genuinely felt we were just a bit more civilised, but that has long gone.
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22 Nov
12:51pm, 22 Nov 2024
10,007 posts
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simbil
Think a lack of respect for other views has become more common in the social media age and some people overlook the many things that they do agree on. There may be some rose tinting going on here though, I remember the Class War left of the 70s and they were a rabid bunch! |
22 Nov
12:55pm, 22 Nov 2024
18,153 posts
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jda
It's the right that has increasingly outlawed political protest over the past decade, which could of course be due to the fact that they were in power.
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22 Nov
1:03pm, 22 Nov 2024
26,169 posts
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larkim
I do like to naively think that good politicians from very different political perspectives can sit down in the Common's tea room and have both a pleasant social chat and a grown up but articulate debate between themselves on points of principle and policy which is respectful. Sadly I think that those days are probably long gone; we've managed to foster a sense of genuine personal animosity amongst the majority of politicians which poisons the debate. |
22 Nov
1:43pm, 22 Nov 2024
500 posts
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DaveG
MPs sit on select committees cross-party and often champion the same causes cross-party. I suspect there's much more friendships across parties than we generally see. It's also common for people on opposing sides to pair off, so they both abstain on a bill and it saves them both travelling to Parliament. This happens when MPs are on maternity leave as well. There used to be a band consisting of MPs from Labour, Conservatives and SNP: en.wikipedia.org It should be the job of the speaker's office to be talking up all the cross-party things that happen. |
22 Nov
1:44pm, 22 Nov 2024
7,020 posts
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paulcook
larkim wrote: I do like to naively think that good politicians from very different political perspectives can sit down in the Common's tea room and have both a pleasant social chat and a grown up but articulate debate between themselves on points of principle and policy which is respectful. Sadly I think that those days are probably long gone; we've managed to foster a sense of genuine personal animosity amongst the majority of politicians which poisons the debate. Correct. I mean Starmer and Abbott managed not to speak at all for months. |
22 Nov
2:17pm, 22 Nov 2024
23,424 posts
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rf_fozzy
paulcook wrote: larkim wrote:I do like to naively think that good politicians from very different political perspectives can sit down in the Common's tea room and have both a pleasant social chat and a grown up but articulate debate between themselves on points of principle and policy which is respectful. Sadly I think that those days are probably long gone; we've managed to foster a sense of genuine personal animosity amongst the majority of politicians which poisons the debate. Correct. I mean Starmer and Abbott managed not to speak at all for months. Yep and you've demonstrated exactly why this is such a big problem with this post. |
22 Nov
6:41pm, 22 Nov 2024
22,447 posts
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Chrisull
Hit the road Jack, and don't you come back no more, no more.... "Matt Gaetz says he will NOT rejoin Congress after withdrawing as Trump's pick for attorney general." |
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