23 Nov
2:55pm, 23 Nov 2024
10,008 posts
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simbil
Tricky for any party going after the 'worker' vote, the disillusioned vote and the middle England vote, and making the economics believable. If Labour went left economically - I reckon that costs them power by missing out on more of the worker vote than they imagine, loosing much of middle England and having economics that don't make sense to people. The Lewis idea certainly makes sense to politically engaged people. But one of the first comments when I looked was more or less "eh, do you like Starmer or not, no idea?". The ideas need to be able to clearly (and concisely) answer the anger that people are getting poorer, people don't feel safe and services are getting worse. |
23 Nov
4:43pm, 23 Nov 2024
18,154 posts
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jda
The answer is that the tories have deliberately sabotaged public services and it will take a fair bit of time and money to put right.
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23 Nov
5:05pm, 23 Nov 2024
33,032 posts
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macca 53
Here’s a thought to get the public onside - stop the energy suppliers ripping people off with spurious arguments. It’s no secret that I have a (small!) second home in Portugal. On the day that January’s Energy cap was revealed (“only” going up by 1.2%), I got a letter from my local energy supplier advising that because of continued falling of the global energy price my electricity cost would be reduced by 6% from Jan 1 (to €0.11/kwh if you’re interested, with a daily standing charge of €0.19). I’m pretty sure “we” are impacted by the same global changes (they are used often enough to justify increases), so who is pulling the wool… |
23 Nov
5:24pm, 23 Nov 2024
9,061 posts
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um
Macca - Portugal is ~95% renewable, so not tied to the world market fossil fuel pricing
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23 Nov
5:28pm, 23 Nov 2024
33,033 posts
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macca 53
um wrote: Macca - Portugal is ~95% renewable, so not tied to the world market fossil fuel pricing I have done posts on that aspect as well @um - the most surprising aspect (to me) was how small a proportion of that renewable energy comes from solar |
23 Nov
11:23pm, 23 Nov 2024
7,027 posts
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paulcook
The right wing is really chucking its toys out of the pram. petition.parliament.uk |
24 Nov
8:05am, 24 Nov 2024
30,247 posts
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richmac
Created by someone from Reform. Oh dear. Still at lea than 300K people. Doing well then.
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24 Nov
11:51am, 24 Nov 2024
23,922 posts
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Dave W
Trump voters hail controversial cabinet picks as the government they want Don’t anyone ever try to tell me that Trumps supporters aren’t as thick as pig shit. His “cabinet” has been likened to the Star Wars cantina. Full of misfits and ne’er do wells. I think that’s unfair on the cantina customers to be compared to Trumps idiots. |
24 Nov
12:02pm, 24 Nov 2024
11,842 posts
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Fields
Starmer has started his 2029 campaign with a classic new Labour line, attack folk receiving benefits - many of whom are in low paid work.
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24 Nov
12:05pm, 24 Nov 2024
23,923 posts
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Dave W
Clarkson thinks if he puts on a flat cap and fires up his farming fanbase they can act as a human shield to protect him from his obligation to contribute his fair share to society, lions led by a dickhead Stewart Lee in the Guardian. |
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