28 Jul
1:12pm, 28 Jul 2024
25,315 posts
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larkim
Congress, senate, scotus, circuit courts, state legislatures, the US military, etc etc there's more than enough mechanisms to balance off the power of the president. I'm not saying it's infallible, and I'm not saying 'nothing to see here, move along", but I just think there is no point being drama queens about it either by over exaggerating it.
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28 Jul
1:26pm, 28 Jul 2024
17,534 posts
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jda
larkim wrote: I'm not saying 'nothing to see here, move along" What are you saying then? |
28 Jul
1:49pm, 28 Jul 2024
45,455 posts
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SPR
I don't think wanting a terrible choice to be mainstream in the UK is a good idea and the US is a good example of that. I'm not convinced we won't get more like Trump in the future either even if he loses.
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28 Jul
2:04pm, 28 Jul 2024
32,871 posts
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Johnny Blaze
larkim wrote: Congress, senate, scotus, circuit courts, state legislatures, the US military, etc etc there's more than enough mechanisms to balance off the power of the president. I'm not saying it's infallible, and I'm not saying 'nothing to see here, move along", but I just think there is no point being drama queens about it either by over exaggerating it. He isn't normal. This isn't normal. When politicians undermine institutions they are on the way to destroying them. The history books are full of instances of demagogues using institutions to gain power who then destroy the same institutions. History doesn't repeat itself, but it instructs, and intelligent people should listen to it. |
28 Jul
3:21pm, 28 Jul 2024
20,965 posts
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Dave W
Pretty much how Hitler started out. Larkim. Sorry but I think you are being somewhat naive here. Trump put or wants to put placemen in all the institutions you named. His base is so powerful in the Republican Party that no one can say no to him. And he’s a narcissistic sociopath and liar. No need to vote cos everything is “fixed” and if you disagree then you’re going to prison cos he’s got the AG and all the judges in his pocket. And he’s got rid of all the sane people in the military and in the FBI and put his underlings in place. Think it can’t happen eh? Being “drama queens” are we? |
28 Jul
3:38pm, 28 Jul 2024
32,665 posts
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macca 53
….and he gets his choice in the CIA he can just ring his mate Putin for some advice on engineering “accidents”
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28 Jul
4:46pm, 28 Jul 2024
165 posts
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Yakima Canutt
I'm with Larkin on this. Trump says stupid things. The concern isn't that Trump says stupid things (I'd expect that) it's that the Republican party coalesce around it. But the US machine is a lot more than Trump and I don't see the sort of things from his rhetoric coming home. I do see a direction of policy change that can cause problems for Europe - but equally for the US itself. Perhaps a good thing that could come from this is that Europe (including the UK) waking up to the fact that it needs to stand on its own two feet - and a bit closer together. |
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28 Jul
4:51pm, 28 Jul 2024
20,966 posts
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Dave W
Sane people think that he says stupid things. His supporters hang on every word. They don’t see him as an orange idiot. They think he’s their saviour. There were a lot of them wearing bandages on their ears after he got shot at. Is that being right in your head? |
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28 Jul
4:55pm, 28 Jul 2024
166 posts
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Yakima Canutt
No it's not. Bit it's his core, and he won't win with just his core.
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28 Jul
5:05pm, 28 Jul 2024
20,967 posts
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Dave W
How I hope you are right.
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