12 Jul
5:59pm, 12 Jul 2024
5,449 posts
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J2R
Really? Maybe some small nugget of hope there, then.
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12 Jul
6:03pm, 12 Jul 2024
32,756 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I think her youth works in her favour. Pretty sure I read that a majority of Americans don't want Biden or Trump to be the choice. For obvious reasons, really. She might shift the dial and she will hammer Trump on Roe vs Wade. |
12 Jul
6:11pm, 12 Jul 2024
45,158 posts
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SPR
If there was a slam dunk candidate, they'd probably be standing already. I'd be pleasantly surprised if the US voted an Black American/ South Asian American woman in as president. She's already the first on all three as vice president. |
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12 Jul
6:19pm, 12 Jul 2024
5,451 posts
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J2R
Well, they've already got over one hurdle by electing a black president in 2008, so there's only the woman thing to overcome. But yes, both in one go might be too much.
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12 Jul
6:27pm, 12 Jul 2024
21,920 posts
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Chrisull
The gone a bit Trumpy 538 latest poll predicts Biden 271 - Trump 268 on electoral college. He's staying put.
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12 Jul
6:28pm, 12 Jul 2024
21,921 posts
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Chrisull
9/1 for Biden to win the next election. Crikey for a man still leading in some polls that isn't bad odds.
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12 Jul
6:34pm, 12 Jul 2024
5,839 posts
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paulcook
I've periodically been looking at the odds on Betfair. He was somewhere between evens and 2-1 the day before the disastrous debate. Was about 4-1 afterwards. But some utterly wild swings since, as high as 20-1 at points including possibly the last 24 hours (the graph doesn't show actual time just progress of the odds). Right now he's 8-1. Harris is now second favourite, first time I've noticed that, but I've only been glancing in and out. Trump's price been fairly consistent or so as a current 60% chance of winning. |
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12 Jul
6:42pm, 12 Jul 2024
45,164 posts
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SPR
J2R wrote: Well, they've already got over one hurdle by electing a black president in 2008, so there's only the woman thing to overcome. But yes, both in one go might be too much. To add to that, there was some talk of Trump being a bit of a backlash to Obama when he got in. |
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12 Jul
6:42pm, 12 Jul 2024
32,757 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Chrisull wrote: The gone a bit Trumpy 538 latest poll predicts Biden 271 - Trump 268 on electoral college. He's staying put. Really? Everything I've heard has Biden in major trouble in the Swing States and even in trouble in some blue states. I think his support in the party is slipping away now and he will go. I'm probably wrong! It's incredible that he is floundering against a man like Trump but that's where the US is these days. |
12 Jul
7:01pm, 12 Jul 2024
9,900 posts
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simbil
Biden standing down will take at least 2 things I reckon: convincing him he will lose it (he's not convinced yet) and convincing him that a replacement could win it.
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