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rf_fozzy
It's not really subsidised as I understand it - not in the traditional sense - the food and drink is simply sold 'at cost'
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12 Jul
11:40am, 12 Jul 2024
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um
x-post with larkim, just slower, but essentially the same logic
12 Jul
11:46am, 12 Jul 2024
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larkim
rf_fozzy wrote:It's not really subsidised as I understand it - not in the traditional sense - the food and drink is simply sold 'at cost'

What is a subsidy if it isn't charging a "market rate" for provision which covers *all* costs, not just raw materials and staffing costs.

At the very least there is an opportunity profit foregone as a consequence of operating this way; call it a subsidy or not, it amounts to the same thing - goods provided cheaper to the recipients than would normally be available in the retail marketplace.
12 Jul
12:02pm, 12 Jul 2024
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rf_fozzy
Yeah, but I just don't care. They work odd and long hours. If they're allowed a perk, then this is fine by me.

It's peanuts in terms of government expenses.

I don't get why people are so excised about this one. Lots of workplaces offer subsidised canteens (although perhaps fewer these days than in the past). Go to Germany or Holland and loads of companies have them.

I also don't see as being linked to foodbanks in any way, despite some people trying to draw lines between the two.
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12 Jul
12:08pm, 12 Jul 2024
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jda
A subsidised canteen is a useful perk, but we can debate the size of subsidy….I enjoyed a good one in my first job and then abroad in Japan. They both got worse and more expensive during my time there.
12 Jul
12:21pm, 12 Jul 2024
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DeeGee
paulcook wrote:Do teachers get free meals at schools?


Not only do we not get free dinners, in our canteen they're 20% more expensive than the kids' because our catering provider charge us VAT.
12 Jul
12:22pm, 12 Jul 2024
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larkim
I think the real distinction is the quality of what is on offer via the subsidy. If they were getting cottage pie and peas and slice of rhubarb crumble with a glass of water for £2.50 I doubt anyone would care. But when the nature of the menu is pretty high quality and then it's painted as being "cheap" then that's what gets the goat I think.

Though TBH the prices didn't seem massively cheap. Clearly "good" by central London standards, main courses that would probably be at least £20 being sold for £14 or thereabouts, but it's not as if they are getting Michelin dining for £2.50.
12 Jul
12:33pm, 12 Jul 2024
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paulcook
You definitely have a point there larkim. The alcohol can go run, it's not essential for a start off.
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NDWDave
Next poll… date Joe Biden is no longer running for president.
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1:56pm, 12 Jul 2024
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paulcook
Anyone know the president of Ukraine is?!

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