20 Jun
9:38am, 20 Jun 2024
24,658 posts
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larkim
What a beautifully timed tweet from them... x.com |
20 Jun
9:41am, 20 Jun 2024
20,047 posts
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Dave W
They are lies, Lark. £350 million for the NHS. On the side of a bus. They knew that was a load of old bollox. "Oven ready deal". More bollox. Billions of pounds of fantasy money that they can now suddenly throw about like confetti. All these "great, new ideas" suddenly getting trotted out, with sod all thought behind the process of actually making it happen. They've had 14 years to do all this shit. Why start spouting about it now. Because they are lying to the electorate. Not all the electorate, maybe. Just the nuggets who will believe them. |
20 Jun
9:43am, 20 Jun 2024
5,342 posts
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paulcook
It’s two fold for me Dave. The foundations which stewed for so long, were millions of people forgotten about and disenfranchised who suddenly saw Brexit as an opportunity where their voice and vote counted equally and a chance to kick back at the establishment. Secondly it was a dirty campaign. On both sides. Though I fully concede one side was much, much worse than the other. It’s continued since. To some extent with Johnson hence the red wall vote falling to him. Now Farage. Farage won’t get anywhere, yet, but it’s a peril to not so much ignore him but ignore the reasons why. That for me will be Starmer’s challenge. He has his first term to prove his worth. |
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20 Jun
9:44am, 20 Jun 2024
24,659 posts
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larkim
I was commenting more generally, because the Faisal Islam article was broadly saying none of the parties present honest economic / financial outlooks as much by omission as by inclusion. Agree that outright lies should be called as such, and the Tories at the moment (and Reform) are the prime leaders of that. |
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20 Jun
9:44am, 20 Jun 2024
5,343 posts
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paulcook
larkim wrote: What a beautifully timed tweet from them... x.com That has to be a pisstake surely. |
20 Jun
9:50am, 20 Jun 2024
44,720 posts
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SPR
larkim wrote: I was commenting more generally, because the Faisal Islam article was broadly saying none of the parties present honest economic / financial outlooks as much by omission as by inclusion. They aren't being honest, say it's not an outright lie if you want but omitting key details of how shouldn't be what elections are about. |
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20 Jun
9:51am, 20 Jun 2024
24,660 posts
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larkim
Not even their social media team has an ounce of competence!
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20 Jun
9:54am, 20 Jun 2024
5,345 posts
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paulcook
I’m also really not a fan of how many constituency hustings both Conservative and Labour are refusing to attend and getting empty seated. Happened in my own constituency earlier this week. I suspect most people won’t notice but it’s a complete lack of scrutiny and probably important albeit informal election procedure. |
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20 Jun
10:42am, 20 Jun 2024
5,347 posts
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paulcook
Turns out the second candidate to have resigned is married to the party chief campaigning officer. Well he was until this morning. Pit of snakes. |
20 Jun
10:43am, 20 Jun 2024
30,617 posts
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fetcheveryone
Second candidate was female I think, but yes.
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