25 May
10:40pm, 25 May 2024
17,137 posts
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jda
Wow. Yeah ok my 250 seats prediction is looking almost as bonkers as the Tory campaign 
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25 May
10:47pm, 25 May 2024
32,357 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Ahem, my post from 10.55 today... "I'd bet a pound to a penny that's where Reform are strongest. If I were Richard or Rishi I'd float bringing back the death penalty. That would wrap up the "Bring back the 1950s/Death Penalty/National Service/Norman Wisdom/leaving your door unlocked at night" vote." |
25 May
10:50pm, 25 May 2024
4,941 posts
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paulcook
I was just about to ask what date he announced the return of the death penalty? Think your clinching words are "Richard or Rishi". Exactly why are the Tories trying to outflank a party with 0 elected MPs. |
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25 May
10:52pm, 25 May 2024
32,358 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Well he didn't, but the Venn of death penalty/National Service groups is a single circle.
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25 May
10:53pm, 25 May 2024
32,359 posts
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Johnny Blaze
And of course posh lads like Sunak and Johnson would dodge NS without breaking stride. Tossers.
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25 May
10:55pm, 25 May 2024
4,943 posts
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paulcook
Johnny Blaze wrote: Well he didn't, but the Venn of death penalty/National Service groups is a single circle. Sorry, I meant what future date is he going to announce because it's his next logical step. I was about to post completely independently of either of your posts. |
25 May
10:59pm, 25 May 2024
68,120 posts
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LindsD
My head is spinning. Seriously.
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25 May
11:04pm, 25 May 2024
32,360 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Fair enough, Paul. I wouldn't rule it out, particularly given their general "Human Rights? We don't need no stinking Human Rights!" stance.
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25 May
11:06pm, 25 May 2024
32,361 posts
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Johnny Blaze
They've given up on the youth vote and rightly so, cos the youth think they are appalling. This is all about clawing back Reform votes given they haven't been able to ship weeping people to Africa. Despicable.
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25 May
11:06pm, 25 May 2024
21,547 posts
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Chrisull
It's a culture war move aimed at keeping the over 65s and reform voters onside and energising the base. It's a "we've lost but lets keep it over 100 seats" strategy. I hope it won't , I suspect it will. As for the uptick in the Tories -> Opinium sees them close the gap to 14 points, at 41-27, which one polling analyst thought around there would be a likely final set of percentages. (ie Tories over 25, Labour low 40s) BUT BUT.... I must admit I'm not 100% in agreement, as Opinium has Greens on 7% and (latest MRP in my SE Cornwall constituency also has that) and that is NOT going to happen. 2% last time here, they have no ground game, I emailed them to attend our local green energy fair and didn't get a response, whereas Labour and Lib Dems were all over it and there. Also Opinium has the questionable strategy of counting all Tory 2019 voters who are now don't knows as Tory voters. As we know in 1997, Tories staying at home dealt more of a blow than switching voters. Interestingly Luke Tryl of More in Common had a Focus group with Greens in Bristol in, and Gaza was (sadly) basically a non-issue and not a reason to vote Green, and seemingly environmental issues weren't that much higher! My reading was that the voters were basically left wing " a plague on them all" anti establishment voters, and one said they've vote Green because there was more Green Party signs than other parties?!!! Usual caveats apply, focus groups are narrow and not necessarily representative, I know, I know. But reminds me and others, there is no such thing as a stereotypical voters, everyone is individual and weird. |
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