Jul 2023
10:08am, 18 Jul 2023
30,605 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Has Starmer admitted the handball Maradona was falsely accused of in 1986 yet? Cheating bastard
Where *was* he on 9/11?
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Jul 2023
10:12am, 18 Jul 2023
30,606 posts
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Johnny Blaze
The London 2012 Opening Ceremony was 11 years ago today, brought to us by a Labour Government. It was a great time in this country and it’s very sad to see how far we’ve fallen since, but hey, that Keir Starmer, he’s a bit boring, if putting the Tories in again keeps him out of Number 10 it’s a price worth paying. Borderline trolling now.
I thought it was kind of a mixture of a reminiscence of happier times, and a summation and paraphrasing of recent posts myself, as the general tenor of the thread now seems to be ABL...
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Jul 2023
10:14am, 18 Jul 2023
41,685 posts
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SPR
It's obvious trolling and it won't work. We will criticise Starmer when we think he should be criticised.
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Jul 2023
10:26am, 18 Jul 2023
30,607 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Criticise away. Ive criticised him myself.
But throwing your toys out of the cot and potentially letting the Tories in again is naive and self-indulgent; an old behavioural trope of the left, who value purity above electability and the hard yards needed to effect real change.
"these aren't serious people"
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Jul 2023
10:29am, 18 Jul 2023
98,633 posts
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swittle
Unexpected available: putting on the 2026 Commonwealth Games
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Jul 2023
10:37am, 18 Jul 2023
30,608 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s. Low mortgage rates. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled. Employment is at its highest level ever. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries. 85,000 more nurses. 32,000 more doctors. Brought back matrons to hospital wards. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year. Restored city-wide government to London. Record number of students in higher education. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997. Banned fox hunting. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution. Free TV licences for over-75s. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started. Free eye test for over 60s. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships. Free entry to national museums and galleries. Overseas aid budget more than doubled. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.
This kind of thing can happen again. I believe it can, even though we are in a heck of a state at the moment.
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Jul 2023
10:39am, 18 Jul 2023
60,525 posts
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Derby Tup
Criticise away. Ive criticised him myself. But throwing your toys out of the cot and potentially letting the Tories in again is naive and self-indulgent; an old behavioural trope of the left, who value purity above electability and the hard yards needed to effect real change
Great post
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Jul 2023
10:41am, 18 Jul 2023
41,686 posts
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SPR
Criticise away. Ive criticised him myself. But throwing your toys out of the cot and potentially letting the Tories in again is naive and self-indulgent; an old behavioural trope of the left, who value purity above electability and the hard yards needed to effect real change. "these aren't serious people"
Except this your response to every criticism, it's the left etc. It's been said a number of times that people voting for other parties in safe seats is not letting the Tories in.
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Jul 2023
11:39am, 18 Jul 2023
15,135 posts
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jda
“Blair did a lot of good things therefore vote Starmer” has to be one of the weakest arguments ever presented here.
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Jul 2023
12:01pm, 18 Jul 2023
30,609 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Rubbish.
My posts - even the "trolling" ones - are all round a central theme: if you want historically progressive policies, you are gonna have to elect a Labour govt led by a centrist Labour leader. AFAIC that's an essential fact of our recent history going back to the seventies.
You won't get progressive, redistributive, policies driven by empathy and compassion and a desire for social justice with the Tories, and the Lib Dems spread their legs for Cameron when it suited them and visited 10 years of Austerity on us. The Greens are no-hopers.
A leftwing Labour Party has been rejected by the electorate on numerous occasions.
Sorry to be the bearer of inconvenient truths.
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