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7:58am, 19 Jul 2023
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Ally-C
There’s yer steady hand of the Conservative government campaign ready to go 😂
Jul 2023
6:19am, 20 Jul 2023
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Surelynot
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Jul 2023
7:35am, 20 Jul 2023
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Johnny Blaze
Their desperation means they will pay any price to deliver their wretched policies. I wonder which of them will be pocketing a "brokers fee"?
Jul 2023
7:38am, 20 Jul 2023
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Johnny Blaze
4th July:

"Sunak’s five targets all looking very shaky. Even the soft ones that he has little chance of influencing anyway.

Cue every govt dept working frantically and no doubt expensively and inefficiently to game the targets so Rish! doesn’t look silly in 6 months.*

QED.
Jul 2023
8:49am, 20 Jul 2023
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paulcook
Meanwhile Grant Shapps is a knob

twitter.com
Jul 2023
9:03am, 20 Jul 2023
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richmac
The replies though, no one is falling for his idiocy.
Jul 2023
9:06am, 20 Jul 2023
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paulcook
Yes. At least fozzy has found somewhere to send his Brexit bill.
Jul 2023
9:12am, 20 Jul 2023
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Johnny Blaze
Shapps is that creep at work who can’t do his job for toffee but seems to get promotion after promotion because he has his head up the arse of every manager in the building.
Jul 2023
10:41am, 20 Jul 2023
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Chrisull
JB - I do think you should tactically vote LibDem, knowing the area like you do, it's full of never Labours but definitely some who might go orange from time to time (I knew the Lib Dem SDP candidate of the 80s for local council, she was our next door neighbour, and we know that Lab support in those days was v thin on the ground, but she was able to get enough Tories to go orange briefly.)

I backed the Blair/Brown gov, but I am not seeing anything like that from Starmer. All I'm asking for are mildly social democratic policies. The 28 billion green deal was a great start, and then they started backtracking on that only months later. Heard Rachel Reeves on the radio harping on about "not making unfunded pledges" in response to the 2 child benefit cap, and an economist on Twitter (James Meadway) had the perfect response.

"So make them funded, then.

Could start with Capital Gains Tax and income tax equalisation. £16bn/year.

Scrapping two child cap is £1.3bn."

A reminder Labour have refused to move on Capital Gains tax or taxing the higher earners on income tax. Neither are exactly Corbynism, and indeed the SNP spent most of prime minister's questions dunking on the Labour party on refusal to remove the 2 child benefit cap. And they are Tartan Tories most of the time themselves... (certainly further right than the Labour party until the current Starmer 2022-23 incarnation).

For those (like Martin Kettle in today's Guardian) say - wait, it will be ok once they get in. I have two words for you:

"Antony Albanese"

The Australian PM, elected on a right wing-ish Labour platform, and not even delivering on that. Here's a left wing critique of him:

jacobin.com

And he's headed for disaster at the ballot box. As Starmer will be after one term. The world has changed, and continuity Blairism just isn't enough for the significant challenges ahead.
Jul 2023
10:52am, 20 Jul 2023
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Bazoaxe
Look forward to surelynot responding to Chris and the tartan tories point :-)

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