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Jul 2022
7:27am, 8 Jul 2022
18,336 posts
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larkim
The Tories' issue with Johnson staying on is that they'll have a paralysed government that won't actually be able to do anything significant for 3 months at a time of pretty significant challenge.
Everyone else's issue is that they just want him gone for good riddance. Oh, and we do actually want an effective government in place!
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Jul 2022
7:38am, 8 Jul 2022
27,712 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Given the front pages of the Heil and the Scum I do hope the clown isn't working with them to craft a "stab in the back" narrative...
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Jul 2022
7:55am, 8 Jul 2022
19,150 posts
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richmac
Of course he is JB, that's the sort of cword he is.
As for a government not able to do anything, that includes not fucking anything up.
As long as there is a mechanism to continue to support Ukraine That's going to be as good as it gets
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Jul 2022
8:00am, 8 Jul 2022
18,337 posts
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larkim
Yep, doing nothing could be a good thing. But that's a small government narrative. I like to think that government can and should have a role in solving problems and at the moment we've got problems.
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Jul 2022
8:27am, 8 Jul 2022
27,713 posts
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Johnny Blaze
The new PM should shitcan, as a minimum:
The rwanda policy
The HRA attack
C4 privatisation
They should go back to appointing people to public bodies based on ability, not based on "how much money have they given the party"
And can the war on woke bollocks
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Jul 2022
8:30am, 8 Jul 2022
18,338 posts
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larkim
Watched with incredulity the "vox pops" in Macclesfield on the news last night. I admire loyalty, but I can't fathom what's going on in the head of anyone in the general population that isn't a r-w activist that feels they are outraged by Johnson being forced out of office. Utterly baffling.
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Jul 2022
8:31am, 8 Jul 2022
4,239 posts
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Dillthedog
If anyone thinks that Raab is going to be anymore effective as a caretaker than Bojo, they are sadly mistaken. Yes it will be symbolic to match him out of No10 as soon as possible. But don’t expect any improvement from this shower.
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Jul 2022
8:34am, 8 Jul 2022
2,121 posts
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Ally-C
Watched with incredulity the "vox pops" in Macclesfield on the news last night. I admire loyalty, but I can't fathom what's going on in the head of anyone in the general population that isn't a r-w activist that feels they are outraged by Johnson being forced out of office. Utterly baffling.
He got Brexit done.
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Jul 2022
8:39am, 8 Jul 2022
1,374 posts
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paulcook
The Daily Star has come up trumps at least twice this week.
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Jul 2022
8:46am, 8 Jul 2022
18,339 posts
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larkim
If Johnson does the caretaking job correctly (big if!) then he should be no different to Raab. I think though that's the issue that lots of people have with it; they don't expect Johnson not to want to sprinkle his magic fairy dust on the caretaker government's agenda despite all of the "convention" that would normally be assumed by a PM in his position.
Equally though that's the issue with appointing someone as caretaker; whoever gets appointed may conclude they have some mandate of some sort, unless it is an old grandee (e.g. May, Clarke, Major) who can be trusted to respect the principle that they utterly lack a democratic mandate for anything.
Think the wedding story will cause some stirs, even if it is just a needling thing. Again, a principled PM in his position would be urgently making arrangements to shift away from Chequers, but I doubt that even occurs to Johnson.
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