Oct 2015
2:05pm, 27 Oct 2015
232 posts
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Shadowless Formless Legs
Here's the data by the way: ons.gov.uk And no Derby Tup - this information was not printed in the Daily Mail |
Oct 2015
2:27pm, 27 Oct 2015
450 posts
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Tonybv9
60%!!! I know they pick extreme cases, but I had to switch off Beneifits Britain last night for the sake of my blood pressure. Unemployed 20 something got an emergency benefit loan of £410 to make it to his next payment. He spent it all gambling, then had to phone the food bank. He started talking about his rights and entitlements to the money. That was when I turned over. |
Oct 2015
2:38pm, 27 Oct 2015
3,650 posts
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Doctor K
I recently read a book by Claire Short (written in 2005) in which she says that tax credits should only be a short term measure. I agreed with that assessment. They were always going to be a trap for a Government that tried to do away with them, the main failing always being that although they were designed to make work pay they have allowed employers to have their employees' wages subsidised by taxpayers. I must say though that Osborne's discomfort on this is largely of his own making. The fact that he has been tripped up by the House of Lords is most amusing. |
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Oct 2015
3:01pm, 27 Oct 2015
5,459 posts
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Jambomo
I agree Doctor K - they are in themselves not a good solution. The problem of doing away with them now is that they have no plan for helping those who really do need them, or any plan for industries who use it as a means of subsidising the wages of those they employ. Until the government comes up with a plan for these things, they will find it difficult to get rid of tax credits.
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Oct 2015
3:05pm, 27 Oct 2015
704 posts
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Cheg
The living wage.
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Oct 2015
3:11pm, 27 Oct 2015
8,071 posts
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Chrisull
Proper high wages would remove the need for tax credits, I'm with Doctor K too. I also noted that WHILE Lidl pay the full living wage, not the Tories minimum wage, they don't actually pay breaks. So EVEN the very best, most forward thinking of companies can't even compensate their staff properly for a break. Once upon a time you could work 8 hours straight thru without a break every day if you really wanted to I suppose? That's what most Tories think. But then the pesky EU intervened to say maximum hours and certain breaks in the day. How damned fascistic of them. |
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Oct 2015
3:29pm, 27 Oct 2015
3,651 posts
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Doctor K
Local authorities don't pay meal breaks either.
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Oct 2015
3:33pm, 27 Oct 2015
5,460 posts
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Jambomo
I'm not sure many places pay meal breaks. Often you are allowed a lunch break but do not get paid for it. Maybe thats just the places I have worked in but I don't think I have ever had paid meal breaks.
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Oct 2015
3:50pm, 27 Oct 2015
233 posts
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Shadowless Formless Legs
"I also noted that WHILE Lidl pay the full living wage, not the Tories minimum wage, they don't actually pay breaks. So EVEN the very best, most forward thinking of companies can't even compensate their staff properly for a break." The bastards. Next you'll be telling us that they don't pay their staff for days when they are not due in work. |
Oct 2015
3:56pm, 27 Oct 2015
1,224 posts
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Spleen
The thing I like about Daily Mash articles is that you don't have to bother reading them. Once you've read the URL you've read the entire joke. Tonybv: Turning off Benefits Britain because it made you angry is like turning off Only Connect because they asked you difficult questions. What were you expecting? But in a similar vein, I enjoyed the Guardian's hand-wringing contribution about the "ordinary people" that would be devastated by the tax credit cuts. One was earning nearly the average UK wage *before* tax credits, one was doing a PhD in history and commuting from Norwich to London every day, and one was an unemployed strummer who thought that working Joes had a duty to subsidise his music for the cultural good of the nation. If the Daily Mail had held them up as typical examples of Benefits Britain, the Grauniad would have accused them of stereotyping and demonising the poor. |
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