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Feb 2020
9:30am, 14 Feb 2020
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Wriggling Snake
I was thinking what job I got when I was 39, a certainly owned a suit (mine was too big), I think I had recently been promoted to a Prinicipal Software Engineer and got given a group to lead, I was really crap at that.

DeeGee, that's not true about dress, Foot got torn apart regarding how he dressed. Basically if you were a Tory you could be a scruffy sod, if anything else, you couldn't.

Nothing has changed, let alone the guy being Oxbridge.
Feb 2020
9:47am, 14 Feb 2020
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DeeGee
Foot got torn apart for his donkey jacket. Corbyn's been attacked for not wearing a sufficiently decorous tie. the sma epeople really don't deem to care that the Prime Minister looks like he might just have arrived home after a particularly well-watered key-party.
Feb 2020
9:47am, 14 Feb 2020
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DeeGee
"the sma epeople"="The same people".
Feb 2020
9:49am, 14 Feb 2020
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Chrisull
The only semi-decent minister gets sacked too, aka Julian Smith, who both sides agree was doing a reasonable job in difficult circumstances in Northern Ireland.

As pointed out elsewhere, all remainers gone, so when Brexit goes bad, there will be no politician on board to admit it, and no-one to manoeuvre against the PM when Brexit starts going to shit. As it will do.
Feb 2020
9:50am, 14 Feb 2020
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DeeGee
I got promoted to this job aged 40. I went out and bought four really decent suits, and replaced all my shirts. I still don't make the decisions, but at least now I influence them.
Feb 2020
10:16am, 14 Feb 2020
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Johnny Blaze
Johnson is a "journalist" by profession. I maintain that he is the least suitable PM I have experienced in my lifetime, by dint of experience, maturity, intellect, character, integrity and a whole load of other things.

Positives: he is nowhere near as bad as Trump, who I am convinced would be in a psychiatric ward if he had been born Joe Schmo from Hackensack.

As has been said elsewhere: "It would be nice if the President of the United States and the World's Worst Person weren't actually the same individual".

I like to believe that the Universe eventually ensures that "bad actors" get their just deserts. Obviously that is not a given, but net net I still think Johnson's laziness, incompetence and lack of self-restraint will ultimately do for him.
Feb 2020
10:21am, 14 Feb 2020
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Dave W
Yes JB, I hope so too. Will be only fair and just..

But will it "do for us" first?
Feb 2020
10:44am, 14 Feb 2020
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Fellrunning
That rather assumes that those traits (experience, integrity etc) are seen by the wider public as desirable. I refer you to my previous remarks about drowning kittens
Feb 2020
12:55pm, 14 Feb 2020
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Johnny Blaze
True. I think Trump has lowered the bar of acceptable behaviour so spectacularly and got away with it that Johnson is kind of riding on his coat-tails as the "at least he isn't Trump" leader. His cheating, lying and unscrupulous, unprincipled behaviour has been priced in and a lot of people have accepted it.

However, Trump has had some good fortune. The economy is going well and he hasn't (yet) entered into any new wars. His "America First" message is appealing to a big slice of his electorate, because nationalism is in fashion again.

If the economy starts going south due to Brexit, Johnson has nowhere to hide and he may find he is gone sooner rather than later. All this talk of "levelling up" will be lost rather quickly if the jobless total starts to swell and public finances are subjected to more strain.
Feb 2020
1:03pm, 14 Feb 2020
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swittle
re world's worst person ^ Syrian President Bashar al-Assad might possibly get a look in...and there are others....

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